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I sadly agree with you regarding Europe, but not the rest of the word. I think US image received a permanent blow in many quarters.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Dec 7th, 2006 at 04:36:34 PM EST
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I have a Nigerian friend and his perception of the US is certainly at an all time low. Mind you, it may be not so much that he won't forget Bush in a hurry as there's no sign of improvement on the horizon in the US (from the point of view of his part of Nigeria.)
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Thu Dec 7th, 2006 at 04:45:59 PM EST
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True, that. Wonder what they think of Holland and the UK, considering the fine upstanding work of Shell. Also wonder what the people in the Ivory Coast think of Holland, considering the fine upstanding defence of our football team. Ehm, plus those people we poisoned.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Thu Dec 7th, 2006 at 05:11:26 PM EST
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Indeed. Ask an Indian about Sweden.

We Europeans should be careful about the mote in the US's eye.


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by Number 6 on Mon Dec 11th, 2006 at 05:46:01 AM EST
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Do you mean now, or after Vietnam? Now, I might agree.
by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Thu Dec 7th, 2006 at 05:34:20 PM EST
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Yes, I mean now.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Dec 7th, 2006 at 05:49:44 PM EST
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I think that the Iraq war is perhaps worse than Vietnam because it's really a war waged mainly due to circumstances being favourable, whereas in Vietnam there was a discernable strategic rationale (domino theory, containment, rollback). I think that the war in that sense mimics the war of 1812. Of course in Vietnam there were lies used as a pretext, the strategic rationale was flawed and domestic politics took over the war after a short while. Will the world be less able to forgive a war fought for no reason at all? Could be.

Another problem is that America is not fighting a clearly ideological entity. In Vietnam, the enemies were Communists. Or so the narrative goes. Currently the enemy is Al Qaida, Baathists, Islamofascists, sometimes Sunnis, sometimes Shi'ites, 'rogue states', etcetera. A lot of these are ethnic and religious categories. This may lead to a longer memory.

On the ground, Vietnam was still worse than Iraq. But there was no official endorsement of torture in Vietnam, which also changes the story of the war. And there are plenty of opportunities for Iraq to escalate even further, unfortunately.

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Thu Dec 7th, 2006 at 06:19:11 PM EST
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