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The reason you were wrong on impeachment is that as a foreigner you don't have the standing to talk about domestic US politics. Didn't you get the memo?

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Dec 9th, 2006 at 08:25:38 AM EST
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The impeachment of a leader who lied and propagandised his compatriots into waging a War of Aggression against a helpless, half-starved, largely disarmed but exceptionally oil-rich country far closer to our borders than to its own - and directly resulting in the deaths/maiming of hundreds of thousands of people in Eurasia.... with already significantly tragic backlash-effects in/against Europe itself and the prospect of further consequent regional devastation and turmoil against/amongst Eurasian nations.... is viewed in the USA essentially as... a US domestic issue - even by US "progressives"?

Heaven help us all!

If the US does not yet see the need to purge this festering foreign policy boil from its body politic by impeaching the person/persons responsible for its war-crimes, it is long overdue for international containment.

"Ignoring moralities is always undesirable, but doing so systematically is really worrisome." Mohammed Khatami

by eternalcityblues (parvati_roma aaaat libero.it) on Sat Dec 9th, 2006 at 09:27:03 AM EST
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Not to speak of the festering domestic boil, which won't go away ust by removing Bush - this is like a tick which buries its head in the flesh and, if you pull out the body, still leaved the head there and continues to infect the host.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Dec 9th, 2006 at 09:49:46 AM EST
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This is the core issue, I think.

When I look at the cheerleaders for the Washington Consensus - including the neocons, the CEO cult, the FT, the Economist, and the Straussians - I see no sign of empathy or human values.

This is a quasi-religious tribal cult that sees the rest of the world - and that includes everyone and everything outside of the privilieged circle - as either a threat, or a resource to be exploited.

It's completely pathological. It's beyond simple criminality, because it's not just about exploitative or violent practices. It goes much further into the systematic promotion of these exploitative values, and  a deliberate attempt to destroy any point of view that promotes empathy, fair negotiation, and mutual respect among individuals, businesses, or countries.

This week's Economist headline is 'Why ethical shopping is bad for the world.'

I mean, come on, let's be honest about this - how utterly insane are these people?

And under it there's a stench of death and self-hatred, which you can see clearly in Bush and the other neocons.

This wouldn't be so bad, but Bush is America at this point in time. Those exploitative values are the values that the US seems to run on - competition without quarter, winner takes all, break the law if you can, and if you lose, you fall out of the bottom of the system. And best of luck.

There's still a sizeable interest in fairer values down among the populists. But the (would-be) artistocracy has lost the plot completely, and they really do need help before they drive everyone off the cliff.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat Dec 9th, 2006 at 08:21:43 PM EST
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a million 4's for this comment, britguy!

~"When an inner situation is not made conscious, it appears outside as fate." Karl Jung~
by melo (melometa4(at)gmail.com) on Sun Dec 10th, 2006 at 12:43:47 AM EST
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Triple melo.

Snowballingly "utterly insane".  That´s why, to understand eachother, we need to
>>>>SEPARATE people from "power" and not generalize.

Our knowledge has surpassed our wisdom. -Charu Saxena.

by metavision on Sun Dec 10th, 2006 at 08:18:57 AM EST
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