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That has all gone. And which is why we find it hard to understand the role of the US Flag in everyday life. Europeans have a different take, IMO, on what individual freedoms mean. For us, it is more to be oneself, to aspire to express individual feelings, and to appreciate diversity in others. Yes, we have that 13 starred EU flag
The EU flag has 12 stars and the Danes use theirs just as much as the Americans (for instance, they decorate birthday cakes with flags and when IKEA was first introduced into Denmark its colours were white and red, not the Swedish blue and yellow - I suppose the Swedes are also very attached to their national colours?)

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 8th, 2006 at 12:24:14 PM EST
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12, 13, 27 what's the difference? ;-=

You'll see flags in Finland on special days - it is the job of the building caretaker to have it up and down at the right time. You'll see flags if Finland win the world ice hockey championship again. But it is just a picture - something that stands for far more than a state.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Dec 8th, 2006 at 12:34:03 PM EST
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The difference is that the starts are explicitly not intended to count the member states. That's why 12 and not 27.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 8th, 2006 at 12:37:20 PM EST
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Pray enlighten us as to the specific origins of the 12 - and I mean the explicit meaning.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Dec 8th, 2006 at 12:40:08 PM EST
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On 8 December 1955 the Committee of Ministers adopted this as the European flag. "Against the blue sky of the Western world, the stars represent the peoples of Europe in a circle, the symbol of unity. Their number shall be invariably set at twelve, the symbol of completeness and perfection ... just like the twelve signs of the zodiac represent the whole universe, the twelve gold stars stand for all peoples of Europe - including those who cannot as yet take part in building up Europe in unity and peace." The Council of Europe from the beginning desired it to be used by other regional organisations seeking European integration.


Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. -- Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Dec 8th, 2006 at 12:42:06 PM EST
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I stand corrected.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Fri Dec 8th, 2006 at 02:46:17 PM EST
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My new neighbor has his flag out permanently. But he is a far-right bozo with a penchant for appearance (always walks in 'traditional' clothes), representing a small minority of freaks (even within the far-right).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Dec 8th, 2006 at 05:25:18 PM EST
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by Matt in NYC on Sat Dec 9th, 2006 at 12:32:00 PM EST
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What you linked is traditional festive wear for peasants. Here you can see a less colorful 'traditional' bourgeois wear (this look is actually more late 19th/early 20th century that aimed to reproduce clothing centuries earlier, but was in no small part fantasy). What my neighbour dresses in is an even funnier cross of the two, e.g. a shape like the second and on it a colorful needlework like the first.

BTW, just today I noticed that he took off the flag, when he put up Christmas lights (yes, that energy-wasting madness is creeping over here, too).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Sat Dec 9th, 2006 at 01:00:56 PM EST
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