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European Breakfast - Feb. 15 | 204 comments (204 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

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Being a Spanish atheist I am as blisteringly anticlerical as anyone else. I rebelled against catholicism when I refused to go to catechism to prepare for communion (so I took no communion). My sister was more vulnerable to peer pressure (this is, after all a social issue among schoolchildren) and did take communion. Our parents couldn't care less.

On the other hand, just because I am an atheist doesn't mean that I don't recognize the religious experience [this is what all that fashionable "spiritual but not religious" nonsense is about]. To DoDo I argued that being an apatriot does not prevent me from recognizing the national experience. I suppose I should start arguing to Jerome that just because I am a secularist doesn't mean I don't recognize the reality of confessionalism.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 06:53:11 AM EST
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You know I would be the last one to prevent you form arguing with Jérôme :)
As to spirituality but no religion, I agree with you, it is mostly a socialite-fashion addicted way of reasoning. One day buddhism, the following day, kabale.One does not embrace a religions like it were a new style of dress.
In my specific case, I consider myself religious as I go the the church, but do not approve for that of all what the catholic Church advocates, nor do I approve of the slaughters that were committed in the name of the catholic religion.
God, if he exists as I believe he does, would not approve of that either, IMVHO. One must be out of one's mind to believe that God supports the extermination of any human creature.

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill

by Agnes a Paris on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 07:05:25 AM EST
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If religion is a style of dress, I'm a nudist.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 07:09:17 AM EST
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Thank you. I needed that image. Really.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 07:15:19 AM EST
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fashionable spiritualities are a kind of dress.
Yet they may be also very harmful, like Scientology.
It is definitely not a good idea to debate religion right here but out of sheer curiosity, on what grounds does it belong to "religions" in the US whereas in Europe it fall into to the "sect" category?

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill

by Agnes a Paris on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 07:35:40 AM EST
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Why is it not a good idea to debate religion?

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 07:37:11 AM EST
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Well, I have nothing against it, even if we may have crows looming over the field after the battle :)
Just joking.
Felling pretty comfortable in my see-through dress, I have nothing against it. :)

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill

by Agnes a Paris on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 07:40:08 AM EST
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A better image from my point of view, but not one I needed.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 07:40:39 AM EST
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Seems you do not like images today, Colman...
A gentle joke did never debunk religious beliefs.

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill

by Agnes a Paris on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 07:41:51 AM EST
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All the nude people dancing in my head are distracting, that's all.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 07:43:33 AM EST
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How many nude angels can dance on a pinhead?

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 07:44:34 AM EST
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Do nude angels have feathers?

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 07:45:07 AM EST
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It depends on whether you think the wings are part of the angel or part of the costume.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 07:46:00 AM EST
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I keep your ideas in mind for the next instalment of Gone with the windmill.

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill

by Agnes a Paris on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 07:48:31 AM EST
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Brilliant! How many angels in see-through costumes can dance on the blades of a windmill?

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 07:49:47 AM EST
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A turbine is three-blade, a blade is several meters long, so I guess quite a bunch of them, assuming angels are weightless.
Maybe Jérôme could contribute with his technical knowledge of windmills.
When I stopped looking at that business, the most powerful turbines were 3MW ones, I guess this has evolved and the length of the blades accordingly.

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill

by Agnes a Paris on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 07:55:41 AM EST
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Not right here as this is Fran's breakfast. Maybe a diary?

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 07:40:16 AM EST
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I suggest you go read the Wikipedia articles on Scientology. Then you can come back and report your best answer to your own question in a diary.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Feb 15th, 2006 at 07:43:45 AM EST
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