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I feel a little bit uncomfortable with putting Wojtyla and Ratzinger on the same level. We do not know what Ratzinger will accomplish, we know what John Paul the 2nd did.
I do not question that he took quite a conservative stance on some topics, but on the other hand, his contribution to the fall of the iron curtain cannot be denied. Leaving religion aside, he was a great Statesman, ie he did a very good job as a representative of the Catholic Church, which is a secular institution.

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill
by Agnes a Paris on Fri Feb 17th, 2006 at 10:26:20 AM EST
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Ratzinger was Wojtila's right-hand man for over 20 years. He was appointed to chair the "Congragation for the Doctrine of the Faith" (aka the Inquisition). Ratzinger is one of the most important theologians alive, and he was the most important theologian in the Vatican under JPII.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Feb 17th, 2006 at 10:28:23 AM EST
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What I was saying is not that Ratzinger has no track record within the Vatican, my point is that he still lacks political track record as a statesman. As to whether he is a hard liner, there is no doubt about that.
On the other hand, one could argue that hard liners were bound to take the lead within the Catholic Church if only to be credible towards Muslim assertiveness.
This is not something I approve of, but once again, Churches (or whatever you name them) are secular institutions in charge of ensuring that the religion they claim to represent does not extinct. That's all this is about, not about faith.  

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill
by Agnes a Paris on Fri Feb 17th, 2006 at 10:35:52 AM EST
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Clamping down on liberation theology (and on other liberal theologians such as Hans Kueng) was not a state issue but a theological issue, and in that area Ratzinger is not free of responsibility in what Wojtila did or did not do. That was my point.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Feb 17th, 2006 at 10:40:19 AM EST
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I fully agree with you.
Seem to have improved my "understanding-what-the others-mean" skills lately, even if a lot of work remains to be done :)
Starting from scratch, an exponential learning curve is all but impressive though.

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill
by Agnes a Paris on Fri Feb 17th, 2006 at 10:44:54 AM EST
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