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You should not confuse a racist person with a racist narrative.

I do not know anything about you but you make the case very clear that you are not a racist.

But your narative is clearly racists. I do not have time to deconstruct it..but the implications, the things you suppose, the things that you stablih as true and so on and so on. give a clear narrative as Colman said.

This does  not mean you are racist.. but in this post, at least, you used a racist narrative...you know: "we" have to teach "them", "our" ideas, "their" ideas, mixing mainstream muslims with radical and making a huge mix of other stuff. I would really love to deconstruct it.. a pity I do not have time.

By the way, on a side note... According to your vision Spain is not really european. Here Catholic Church is payed with taxes, teaching of the Catholic religion is compulsory in public schools, teachers are paid by the state, there are special tratments for the church in all fields of life.. from taxes to media....

Spain is clearly not Eruope since there is no complete (there is some kind of separation..more or less like Lebanon) separation of church and state...Migeru can explin it better, Spain is laic but confessional...or something to this effect (in the Constitution) go figure

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I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Tue Feb 7th, 2006 at 10:31:37 AM EST
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You mean this?
16.3 No religion shall have a state character. The public authorities shall take into account the religious beliefs of Spanish society and shall consequently maintain appropriate cooperation relations with the Catholic Church and other confessions.
Separation of Church and State is not complete in many European Countries. The UK is one of them, where the Monarch is the head of the Church. Germany collects church tax and classifies its citizens according to whether they are Lutheran or Catholic. In Scandinavia they also have national Lutheran churches with close ties to the State and Monarchy. And so on and so forth... I guess no European country is European after all.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Feb 7th, 2006 at 11:20:18 AM EST
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The State churches in Scandinavia will be gone in a few years. In Norway, the leading muslim groups actually oppose this, as I recently discovered to my rude surprise.

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by Sirocco (sirocco2005ATgmail.com) on Tue Feb 7th, 2006 at 12:38:18 PM EST
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The Scandinavian countries will then join France as the only European countries, I suppose ;-)

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Feb 7th, 2006 at 12:50:47 PM EST
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Now seriously, it makes sense that they should oppose it: if a state church exists they can strive for a cozy relationship with the state under cover of "equality".

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Feb 7th, 2006 at 01:01:33 PM EST
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I meant exactly that.

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Tue Feb 7th, 2006 at 01:23:02 PM EST
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Well, Kcurie, if you are interested... On January 3 1979 Spain entered agreements with the Holy See on legal matters, education and culture, and economic matters. This stuff is too much for me.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Feb 7th, 2006 at 11:27:05 AM EST
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