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I think it is possible for America to open it eyes...maybe not probable...but then, if the US goes on and loses the Iraq war, there may be an opening for some discussion about humility and reality. But it depends who's talking...would take quite a diplomat. I do agree with Zinn that the US & all Americans need to come to terms with our history though...and our present...and having just been to Egypt, it is difficult to realize that such a friendly and polite people do have ill feelings towards the US because of the treatment of Iraqi's. It's sad and difficult (and I was told it was best to keep a low key about being an American...). Reality is out there waiting...

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia
by whataboutbob on Wed Mar 15th, 2006 at 02:50:53 PM EST
if the US goes on and loses the Iraq war
I think it's happened already. The question is whether and how it will be acknowledged.

There are three possible outcomes: the US pulls out and calls it a victory, they pull out and call it a defeat, or they have to fly off the roof of the biggest embassy in the world with helicopters.

The best thing Bush could do is own what he broke and withdraw the troops ASAP after the mid-term elections. That way his successor won't inherit the need to make a choice among those three options.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 16th, 2006 at 01:19:00 AM EST
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