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Another Great Game | 57 comments (57 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Great diary.

This makes me hope that maybe Central Asia may in the course of this century organize itself into a democratic political entity.

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Mar 18th, 2006 at 05:20:15 PM EST

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Could be, but just as well, it might be that oligarchies remain.

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Sat Mar 18th, 2006 at 05:47:37 PM EST
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Are you claiming that the EU has no oligarchs?

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Mar 18th, 2006 at 05:48:37 PM EST
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Well, no. But what part of my post made you think that there is a force for Central Asian democratisation here?

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Sat Mar 18th, 2006 at 05:51:20 PM EST
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this time, it's not Great Powers but some of the affected countries who are the key pushers, and the competition might lead to increased political stability rather than conflict.

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Mar 18th, 2006 at 05:52:24 PM EST
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<snark>This is the neo-con at work in you again Migeru... Remember Stability!=Democracy, or at least not necessarily</snark>

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Sat Mar 18th, 2006 at 06:27:02 PM EST
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Indeed. I was a bit realpolitik-cynical when I wrote the diary...

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Sat Mar 18th, 2006 at 06:28:46 PM EST
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Stability + Economic interdependence + Economic improvement ~ Democracy

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Mar 18th, 2006 at 06:32:53 PM EST
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Again: how do China and the ASEAN countries fit into that?

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Sat Mar 18th, 2006 at 06:36:46 PM EST
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We'll see how long China can go on creating an economically powerful middle class without carrying out some liberal political reforms.

ASEAN is mostly progressing rapidly, all things considered, but Myanmar/Burma is an ugly blot, I'll give you that.

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Mar 18th, 2006 at 06:41:09 PM EST
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Having been on the transiberian railway and having gone from helsinki to Beijing via Tashkent, I find that train travel via central asia is a good idea, although one can go nuts spending three days on a train without stopping for more than a few minutes at a time.

by messy on Mon Mar 20th, 2006 at 12:24:49 PM EST
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What the Russian railways need to do is introduce hop-on-hop-off tickets if they don't have them already. Then you can spend 24 hours at each stop (how many trains are there a day?).

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Mar 20th, 2006 at 12:28:11 PM EST
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Ah, that! But what I was thinking of was regimes less willing to engage in any conflict, and a West less willing to make war or any mess causing conflict in the region, not necessarily stability from democratic legitimacy of regimes.

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Sat Mar 18th, 2006 at 06:27:38 PM EST
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There is not only competition involved, but also cooperation.

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Mar 18th, 2006 at 06:33:58 PM EST
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China, ASEAN?

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Sat Mar 18th, 2006 at 06:36:04 PM EST
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I mean, you're taking care of the central asian gaping hole in my multipolar world map.

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Mar 18th, 2006 at 05:51:23 PM EST
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