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It is customary to call ETA "La banda terrorista", and ETA members are usually charged with  pertenencia a banda armada. "Gang" is the best translation I can muster (but is not to be confused with "street gang": pandilla).

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 06:31:11 AM EST
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Unfortunately, "gang" in English really has the connotations of street or criminal gang. "terrorist band" would seem like a perfectly fine translation of "La banda terrorista", if a bit archaic. It just clashes a bit with the way Northern Irish terrorists would have been described: only their opponents would call them a gang.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 06:36:43 AM EST
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If I translate la banda as "the band" it almost sounds like a music band. I suppose group is ok. But, really, only ETA is banda terrorista or banda armada in the Spanish press. Foreign groups are called grupo terrorista or grupo armado.

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 06:39:39 AM EST
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I think group is probably the best English translation, unless the original was meant to be pejorative.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 06:41:22 AM EST
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That would be my contention, actually.

I am not going to pretend the Spanish press is impartial on this, and El Mundo, ABC and La Razon are going to be hostile, also to Zapatero.

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 06:43:30 AM EST
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That's not going to be helpful to the process. Media engagement is important. How much of a grassroots does ETA have? One of the things in the North was watching how carefully the IRA/Sinn Fein leadership(s) had to coax their grassroots along with them.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 06:45:40 AM EST
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ETA grassroots can be measured by Batasuna's vote: 10% to 15%.

By the way, among the Basque press, notice the difference in headlines between Gara (Batasuna) ETA (Basque Nationalist Party) and El Diario Vasco and El Correo Vasco.

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 06:47:37 AM EST
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Is Batasuna as linked to ETA as Sinn Fein is to the IRA? Shared leadership and so on?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 06:52:46 AM EST
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That is why Batasuna has been made illegal. Baltasar Garzon of Pinochet fame doggedly investigated the whole MLNV (Basque National Liberation Movement) and contended that Herri Batasuna and the newspaper Egin were ETA appendages controlled through the KAS (Koordinadora Abertzale Sozialista or Socialist Patriotic Coordinator). This happened in the late 1990's and is the reason why Batasuna has gone through so many incarnations over the past 7 or 8 years.

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 06:59:37 AM EST
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In this process it's going to be invaluable to have you along pointing out parallels and differences with the Ulster process.

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 06:48:27 AM EST
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Some of the same people are involved:

Fr Alec Reid of Belfast, who was a key figure in the Irish peace process and who was a witness to IRA decommissioning, confirmed yesterday to the BBC that he had assisted in discussions leading to Eta's statement.

Sinn Féin president Gerry Adams told a press conference in Belfast yesterday afternoon that "Eta's announcement provides all sides to the conflict with an opportunity of historic proportions.
(Irish Times)

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Mar 23rd, 2006 at 06:50:51 AM EST
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