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One of the things that never seems to figure in nuke calculations is that there is no reliable long term storage of high level waste. Currently it's pulled out of reactors and kept in ponds, which is hardly a sustainable long-term solution.

This storage has to stay safe for 100,000 years or so, so it won't be cheap. There are very few places on the planet that are dry enough and stable enough to make reliable storage possible. And the costs of creating inert containers - the current favourite is a copper/steel mix - aren't trivial.

So when decommissioning costs are quoted, it's worth remembering that they don't yet include this long term storage.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Mon Mar 6th, 2006 at 05:04:48 AM EST
There used to be a nuclear/chemical storage facility on an Aral Sea island in the times of the Soviet Union, when the Sea was a sea-like lake.

Now, considering that is looks more like a dirty, salty puddle, the base had to be relocated, due to safety reasons.

Funny, but the island was a state-protected national park back then. Almost no wildlife there now, is there?

A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government -- Edward Abbey

by serik berik (serik[dot]berik on Gmail) on Mon Mar 6th, 2006 at 05:33:47 AM EST
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Last month I did read this report about that.

Don't read it, you gonna be sick for at least a day.

The struggle of man against tyranny is the struggle of memory against forgetting.(Kundera)

by Elco B (elcob at scarlet dot be) on Mon Mar 6th, 2006 at 06:15:26 AM EST
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Nuclear/chemical? Aren't you rather talking about the big Soviet bioweapons test field? That was certainly on an island in the Aral Sea. Or was there all three?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Mar 6th, 2006 at 06:22:23 AM EST
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Sorry, I should have put it in another way, since I was not sure. Instead of "nuclear/chemical" read "nuclear or chemical." :)

A couple of years ago I watched a Russian documentary about the island, in which they showed the bunkers with the stuff that were some sort of storage facility.

A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government -- Edward Abbey

by serik berik (serik[dot]berik on Gmail) on Mon Mar 6th, 2006 at 07:27:19 PM EST
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Don't forget on the other hand that highly radioactive waste is also the one with the shortage half-life (in tens of years at most). The less "hot" stuff is not really dangerous, even if it remains that way for a very long time.

So I am not convinced that there is no solution to the waste problem. I personally think that it plays on our fears of an invisible killer more than anything else. There are lots of things that are really more dangerous to us and which we should worry about before (like most pollution from coal...)

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Mar 6th, 2006 at 06:44:07 AM EST
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