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I'm not quite sure how to express this. There are many things aberrant with the present-day US of A (like, say, Spain under Franco) but were we having this discussion say, ten years ago, I'd vigorously defend the US employment system.

I willingly confess that I know very little about the French system; I've never worked in France and my entire adult life was spent in the US. I have however experience with the way things work in the US, or to be technical in Southern California.

I am pro-union (as we understand that term in America) in terms of providing a balance of power in big businesses, administering pensions, etc. (It's a great shame many unions became so corrupt but I digress.) My wife belongs to a Union and I do appreciate the role they play.

I also supported the notion of a government-supported healthcare system, and opposed the dismantlement of the so-called welfare system. (People forgot that Johnson's war against poverty actually worked.)

But employment at will, I will defend as being perhaps the most natural form of employment; I've been on both ends of it, have seen it practiced for 30 years, and frankly I don't understand any of your objections.

by Lupin on Tue Mar 7th, 2006 at 02:10:15 AM EST
Two very interesting points.
the system only works, of course, where there are many jobs available
that's the problem we have in France, the demand and the offer do not match, there are bottlenecks on the job market which prevent a seamless confrontation of the offer and demand.
it makes it much easier for employers to treat employees as disposable commodities. Which is of course the real point of the plan. Employees will be much less likely to rock the boat or stand up for themselves while they're on probation.

My impression is that here in France many employers tend to think that employees should be grateful to have a job in the first place, and the balance of power is clearly in favour of the employers. As BritGuy rightly points out, the new law will only contribute to more imbalance at the employees' detriment.

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill
by Agnes a Paris on Tue Mar 7th, 2006 at 03:28:17 AM EST
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It is perhaps true that employees tend to rock the boat less when they are at risk of being terminated without cause, but on the other hand, there is pressure on employers to treat employees better in the hopes of keeping them from quitting.

Perhaps the amount of job turnover here in the U.S. is not apparent from the European viewpoint. Few people spend their entire careers at one company. Many people change jobs every two years, and I'm not talking about burger flippers but professionals, factory workers, etc. It would be interesting to try to find statistics on this...

by asdf on Tue Mar 7th, 2006 at 11:18:22 PM EST
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