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I think it is ridiculous to speak of "outdoing Reagan" or "letting Thatcher and Reagan" far behind.

This is going in the same (wrong) direction, that's true, but we still have far to go, thankfully. I am not sure that such hyperbole is helpful.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Mar 6th, 2006 at 01:42:25 PM EST
That thought struck me also.

In some US states they have "employment at will" which is a vastly less secure state than the proposals outlined here.

UK employees in small companies are pretty insecure too. There are laws about replacement, but precious few about "downsizing."

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Mon Mar 6th, 2006 at 02:38:03 PM EST
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"At will" employment is the overwhelming norm in the U.S., not limited to a subset of states. The European type of employment contract is rare.
by asdf on Mon Mar 6th, 2006 at 08:04:24 PM EST
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Hm, do you have figures on that?

Whilst it is true that "European contracts" are not used often, I have seen reports that "at will" is not even a majority of the US workforce these days.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Tue Mar 7th, 2006 at 03:40:56 AM EST
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I think you are confusing "at will" employment with something else. Even executives have contracts that specifically spell out that they can quit at any time, and they can be fired without cause at any time. The only significant exception to this is unionized labor, which is a pretty small part of the overall workforce.

And I don't know of any American company that has worker representation on the board of directors. There might be a few exceptions, but they would be in the extreme minority.

We simply accept the fact that the boss can (and will) fire you at any time, and the boss accepts that you can (and will) quit at any time.

by asdf on Tue Mar 7th, 2006 at 11:14:29 PM EST
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If you look carefully into the reforms implemented in the eighties in the US and UK, I am sure you will agree with me.

I stick to the opinion that if this single contract is implemented in the form the governmental think tanks are planning it, it will leave the US and UK far behind.

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill
by Agnes a Paris on Mon Mar 6th, 2006 at 03:54:33 PM EST
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Plus I would add that the word "ridiculous" is misplaced here.
An opinion may be wrong, but ridiculous is a judgement I am surprised and disappointed to hear from you Jérôme.

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill
by Agnes a Paris on Mon Mar 6th, 2006 at 03:56:16 PM EST
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