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I'd say that this graph from Le Monde gives us nothing to be proud of when it comes to the youth unemployment record. BTW, it would be interesting to know what their sources are.

Indeed, striking is that less than half of those employed work under stable conditions. The 7.8% being on traineeship (stage), let alone the 7.6% in interim (part time work) positions cannot be really considered as benefiting from stable perspectives. Those are candidates for job search.
Those, like yourself, who read le Canard Enchaîné know how good the government is at forging the figures of ANPE (job seekers central office)

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill
by Agnes a Paris on Tue Mar 7th, 2006 at 09:03:04 AM EST
The issue is not how the numerator is measured, the issue is which denominator you take.

If you measure unemployment to active population, you get a number 3 times worse, in France, than unemployment to total youth population. If you use that higher number to say that one young person out of four is looking for a job, like many newspapers do, you are lying, or you are being willfully ignorant.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Mar 7th, 2006 at 09:14:20 AM EST
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May I assume that the "you" used in your last sentence is a generic ?

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill
by Agnes a Paris on Tue Mar 7th, 2006 at 09:17:33 AM EST
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can take it as "you" want... ;-)

(yes, I was specifically targetting newspaper articles)

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Mar 7th, 2006 at 09:31:38 AM EST
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you are lying, or you are being willfully ignorant

in view of the above, I'd rather assume that "you" was not "tu".

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill
by Agnes a Paris on Tue Mar 7th, 2006 at 09:39:08 AM EST
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Agnes, it seems obvious to someone (well, yes, me as it happens ;)) coming in here to read these comments, that Jérôme's "you" translates into French as "on".
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Mar 7th, 2006 at 09:54:02 AM EST
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It was not that obvious in the context of one of my ideas being labelled "ridiculous" yesterday.
I am sure Jérôme appreciates your stepping in, afew, as he did not care to do it by himself.

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill
by Agnes a Paris on Tue Mar 7th, 2006 at 09:57:23 AM EST
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by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Mar 7th, 2006 at 10:28:12 AM EST
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You know you are not any you.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Mar 7th, 2006 at 09:56:04 AM EST
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This is one of the unfortunate things about the English language...that we lost the formal/informal second person distinction.

So we just have to substitute "one" for "you," which makes this "when one does this" or "when one does that" (general point).

Of course southerners in the US have partially solved the problem by inventing "y'all" for "you" (plural).

NOTE: this comment is known as a subtle change of subject which has the effect of turning attention away from any possible terse words or whatever.

by gradinski chai on Wed Mar 8th, 2006 at 01:29:49 AM EST
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I was not focusing on the global figure of youth unemployment, but on the split between categories.

When through hell, just keep going. W. Churchill
by Agnes a Paris on Tue Mar 7th, 2006 at 09:18:58 AM EST
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