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Germany and Poland.

(The Alemans were a large German tribe or tribal allience in the latter part of the Roman Empire's history, living in the areas just North of the Roman Empire, and they would eventually invade large parts of what is now France.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Mar 7th, 2006 at 11:21:34 AM EST
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(Smilarly, the Italian name for Germans originates in the Teutons, who were the first German tribe Rome got in touch with when they left what is now Denmark and invaded Central and Southern Europe from around 120 BC until the final defeat and genocidal annihilation around 102 BC.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Mar 7th, 2006 at 11:24:14 AM EST
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Ah, I see.  Thanks.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Tue Mar 7th, 2006 at 11:30:36 AM EST
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Go on, DoDo, mention Batavia next, Nomad needs riling up a bit more today...  ;-)
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Tue Mar 7th, 2006 at 11:36:22 AM EST
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Yes indeed, the Batavian Republic (named for the Batavii tribe whom the Romans almost exterminated near the delta of the Rhine) was succeeded by the Napoleonic Kingdom of Holland, which encompassed much of today's Neetherlands...

...amd from Wiki:

From the great port cities of Holland, Dutch merchants sailed to and from destinations all over Europe, and merchants from all over Europe gathered to trade in the warehouses of Amsterdam and other trading cities of Holland. As a result, many Europeans heard of the United Provinces first as "Holland" rather than "Republic of the Seven United Provinces of the Netherlands". This tradition continues to this day.

Sorry :-)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Mar 7th, 2006 at 03:30:55 PM EST
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...needs to be fixed with that wiki piece.

As a result, many Europeans heard of the United Provinces first as "Holland" rather than "Republic of the Seven United Provinces of the Netherlands". This tradition continues to this day.

This tradition? We long stopped being a republic of the seven united provinces. We've 12 provinces now, and we're a monarchy. How then can people refer back today to the republic??

I know what they mean, but it's still worded wrongly.

Mutter, mutter.

by Nomad on Tue Mar 7th, 2006 at 05:03:22 PM EST
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I thought you will protest that the Batavian Republic and the Napoleonic Kingdom of Holland were examples of foreign influence/ignorant foreign occupiers :-)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Wed Mar 8th, 2006 at 06:12:19 AM EST
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the Italian name for Germans

(Tedeschi)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue Mar 7th, 2006 at 03:34:11 PM EST
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I once heard that Espana comes from some Farsi or Arabic word, isbâan, meaning "rabbit" ... thus "the country of rabbits" which apparently even Spaniards sometimes use too, but I've leave this to Migeru (ie: "el pais de conejos" ??)

Something to do with either their penchant for sex, or for their reproductive ratios, no?

by Alex in Toulouse on Tue Mar 7th, 2006 at 03:38:24 PM EST
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España comes from the Latin Hispania.

Folk etymologies, schtymologies.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Mar 7th, 2006 at 03:46:29 PM EST
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Awww, I liked the sexual connotations of the other etymology!
by Alex in Toulouse on Tue Mar 7th, 2006 at 03:50:18 PM EST
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