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The next thing would be to scrap the Gaullists from French political life (or favorize their entry into retirement, if one prefers...)
Now talk about a strawman.

Gaullism was put to pasture with de Gaulle's resignation in 1969.

Gaullism never was a political movement in the same way as, let's say, socialism, but a strictly personal movement around a one-of-a-kind man whose legitimacy owed nothing to run-of-the-mill politics. Btw, that legitimacy drove traditional politicians absolutely batshit insane as they had no grip on the man and he was the negation of everything they stood for, the haggling and give-and-take of ordinary democracy.

It was great while it lasted but cannot not (and should not) be reproduced.

That many politicos wrapped themselves into the General's legacy afterwards is another story.
by Francois in Paris on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 08:31:48 AM EST
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Have it your way. But everyone in French politics for donkey's years after de Gaulle disappeared went on calling Chirac's lot les Gaullistes. And they certainly were a political movement, even if self-seeking and mediocre. Call them something else if you like, but you know who I'm talking about. Chirac, Villepin, and Sarkozy are... ????ists ;)
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 09:28:03 AM EST
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are ... are ... are gutless idiots who don't even dare to be openly right-wingers?

That's what worries me. They leave an open field to be Le Pen and friends.

Instead of having a clean hard-left, center-left, center-right and hard-right configuration, French politics have an uterly bizarre configuration on the left with a PS which tries to be a jack-of-all-trades and a center of gravity on the right which is too far on the right with a very weak center-right but not enough presence to the hard right to block authoritarians.

Instead of 4 well-defined peaks on the ideological axis and 3 possible coalitions, you have only 2 contorted blobs but without the benefit of a winner-takes-all electoral system à la American, which locks off marginal groups and forces them back in the mainstream parties.

My worries are compounded by what I hear around me: a lot of people who used to be center left, moving towards authoritarian positions out of frustration. The CPE debacle is reinforcing their views (by "proving" that it's not possible to "reform"). And I think Sarkozy shot his strongman creds at a large degree with those electors by playing against Villepin and advocating for withdrawal.

It may lead to a very dispersed situation in 2007, even worse than 2002.
by Francois in Paris on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 10:57:03 AM EST
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I am absolutely convinced that Le Pen will get 20% of the vote in 2007. I don't see Sarkozy encroaching that much on his vote, so he will rely on the traditional right, plus whatever authoritarian leaners on the left, but he will have to fight Bayrou in any case, and all the dirty tricks from Chirac - whose only competence in 40 years of politics has been to kill off the careers of other right wing politicians.

I am not so pessimistic about the socialists as you are. Don't forget that whoever the socialist candidate is, s/he will benefit from the "guilt" effect of 2002, i.e. all the lefties that found Jospin too centrist and voted for the "real thing" to send him a pessage and got Chirac instead. The main risk is that a fucker like Fabius or Lang goes for a dissident candidature after losign the internal primary.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 11:09:44 AM EST
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I clearly see Le Pen and De Villier totaling significantly more than 20%.

And on the left, I have no clue how the PS is going to corral the extreme-left without a strong leader like Mitterrand to play sticks and carrots on today's PSUs. Just for an inkling of things to come, read that. They (PS, UNEF, CFDT) are not in control at all.

(Geee, you really detest Fabius, don't you :)
by Francois in Paris on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 11:41:21 AM EST
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