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When do they expect to have first propper results?
by PeWi on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 09:48:15 AM EST
Partial results should start at 17:00 h.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 09:54:52 AM EST
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Thanks.... exciting - I love election nights when chang is in the air....
by PeWi on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 09:55:53 AM EST
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Yes, I have been working with Chinese Acrobats for the recent MoonFestival, so it is NOT a spelling mistake!
by PeWi on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 09:56:45 AM EST
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It is going to be a long afternoon then...

Do they report non-oficial results from each poll table by phone as soon as the counting is done? Or they have to get with the oficial act to a central station where is validated and reported?

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 09:57:50 AM EST
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Results are declared by the Minister of Interior in Rome. It's all very official and centralized.
by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 10:03:44 AM EST
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How does the interior minister gets the results?

In spain there is a representative of the ministry in each poll who makes a phone call telling the ministry what the results of the poll table will be (the valid results are obtained three days later oficially).

I was wondering how the ministry gets the information? DO they have a representative in each poll station?

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 10:06:22 AM EST
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As far as I remember, the poll station has a ministry-nominated "president" that is responsible for the correct counting on the day. Once scrutiny has ended, he files all the required documents, including a summary sheet with the results, seals the poll boxes and brings them to a local council authority, all the while being escorted by police forces or military police ("Carabinieri"). The authority then aggregates the results and communicates them to the ministry. I don't know if he also calls the ministry or the local authority before actually carrying the documents.

All in all, it's probably one of the best and most efficient counting process in the world, because the results are always hotly contested so we have to make sure they are right. Irregularities can happen outside the polling station (and they do, especially in mafia-dominated southern areas) but they won't happen inside.

This time there's a change though, a few regions are experimenting with electronic voting. It would be interesting to see if these will bring the same sort of problems Diebold brought in the US (i.e. noticeable discrepancies between usually reliable exit-poll results and official results, public debunking of flawed security in the voting system, and widespread suspicion of substantial vote fraud).

by toyg (g.lacava@gmail.com) on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 10:20:38 AM EST
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The official results are forwarded by phone to the Interior Ministry in Rome, although there's gonna be a first this time: 36 m Euros were spent to transmit the data electronically via internet. This is considered a test and not 'official'. The hard copy of the election results of each commune is brought to Rome via motorbike by agents of the council police.

   

"The USA appears destined by fate to plague America with misery in the name of liberty." Simon Bolivar, Caracas, 1819

by Ritter on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 10:34:42 AM EST
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Insert Eddie Izzard sketch about Italian people on scooters lasciviously saying "ciaaaaao"
by toyg (g.lacava@gmail.com) on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 10:38:41 AM EST
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Actually this time the electronic results are official. In the last two elections they were experimental.

There has been a good deal of controversy over this affair in the past weeks. There were possibilities of fraud. A police investigation a few days ago found two telephone accesses to the root directory within the Ministry and apparently remedied it.

In the best of cases the whole affair is just a rip-off for crony contracts.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 10:44:36 AM EST
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Btw, what is Prodi's position on the troops in Iraq?
Will he be bringing the remaining ones home?
by Alex in Toulouse on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 02:24:55 PM EST
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That's what he said, yes, though we'd need de Gondi to say whether he included any 'nuances'.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 02:26:31 PM EST
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It was a flat out promise, may be not his first action but up there on the list.

At this point it doesn't seem likely he'll be Council President.

B also promised it but his promises are written on water.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 07:20:09 PM EST
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