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So it's over. According to la Repubblica the Cdl has only one senator more than the Union. The vote abroad could overturn the situation in the Senate but in the final analysis the difference will be minimum. This will force the coalitions to be constantly vigilant.

The Union has won the Camera. Prodi is the next Council President but it will be very difficult to govern with half the nation on the other side. Prodi has promised to unite Italy yet nothing is now more apparent than its division.

Will he overcome this grave situation? He has promised to be radical in his approach and perhaps it may be the best ground at the moment to seize the initiative. Prudence and conciliation may be nice on paper but useless in the Italy we have inherited.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 08:57:02 PM EST
Gondi, could you detail us the situation in the Senate?

I mean,

  • definite number of seats won domestically (is it 153:148 as according to CdS, or 155:154 as according to la Repubblica?),
  • what are lifetime senators and how many are there (are they the difference between the two newspapers?)
  • how many foreign senators will there be,
  • where do the exile parties stand on the left/right divide?


*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 09:07:58 PM EST
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I know there are 6 foregin seats extra.

I also noticed that on the web pages it is 153 to 148 but this is short of the total number domestically (309  is the proper number).. what is going on?

And yes.. I also want to know about the vitalici.

A pleasure


I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 09:15:20 PM EST
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The 153:148 lacks 6 extra seats for trentino (Ritter extra, recall?) on the left and 2 extra on the right for Trentino too

This makes 155:154..and later we will know the 6 extras.  It all comes to that... ...and the vitalici.

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 09:20:52 PM EST
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You've got it! Thanks to you (and thanks to Ritter, who was right in his prediction after all!)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 09:28:25 PM EST
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I'll go with Repubblica's account for now.
Lifetime Senators are appointed by the President of the Republic for outstanding merits. Also, all ex-Presidents of the Republic become lifetime Senators.

Usually they would abstain from voting confidence to a new government or over a law.

There will be six foreign Senators.

No non-coalition party won enough votes to be in Parliament. There will only be the two coalitions with regional minority language parties.

by de Gondi (publiobestia aaaatttthotmaildaughtusual) on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 09:28:01 PM EST
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Thanks!

BTW, to you and kcurie and other night-owls: to end the comment overflow, I created a second Italy elections thread on the frontpage, please migrate over!

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 09:31:12 PM EST
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can we trust the vitalici not to torpedo Prodi if he wins the four senators abroad?

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 09:10:15 PM EST
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