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The question really has to be asked at this point:

Was there vote tampering?

When a result goes against opinion polls, exit polls, and the betting markets, one really has to wonder. Personally, I don't think betting markets as strongly against Berlu could be wrong. I will always assume this election was in some ways doctored.

What do you think the reaction with in Italy itself will be to this proposition?

by Ben P (wbp@u.washington.edu) on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 03:09:05 PM EST
----right now, that almost anything that sounds vaguely feasible - in a connect the 20 dots, what do you see?  kind of way - turns my mind into a turmoil.

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by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 03:15:46 PM EST
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The resutls in sicily are awful.. they are the worst resutls of the left in years!!! 15 point behind (last election was around 10 %).

This does not mean anything. The left just did not vote?

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I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 03:28:58 PM EST
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You can't be me, I'm taken
by Sven Triloqvist on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 04:14:34 PM EST
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In other words, only serves to reinforce the prospect of fraud. Sicilly is run by the mob, which has not insignificant ties to Berlu. Very skeptical.
by Ben P (wbp@u.washington.edu) on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 04:15:20 PM EST
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Not so fast. Most of Messina and Catania is not yet counted.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 04:18:07 PM EST
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Sorry, meant Palermo and Catania. Big cities, expect the metropolitan areas to (a) be counted for longer, (b) vote more Left.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 04:19:17 PM EST
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Been asking the same question. According to Spiegel Online Exit Polls indicate a Prodi win.

Polls Show Prodi Ousting Berlusconi

Exit polls released on Monday afternoon show Romano Prodi beating incumbant Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi with a majority in both houses of parliament.
by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 03:45:15 PM EST
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Reuters: Election swings Berlusconi's way: pollster

ROME (Reuters) - The result of Italy's general election hung in the balance on Monday, as one pollster said partial returns suggested Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi might win a shock majority in both houses of parliament.

A second pollster predicted that center-left challenger Romano Prodi would just hold off Berlusconi, leaving the result of the two-day vote on a knife-edge.

Exit polls at the end of the two-day ballot said Prodi had won the election, taking between 50-54 percent of the vote. But as the count proceeded, Nexus pollsters said the center-right was advancing and could eventually end up the winner.

Center-left leaders reacted with dismay and disbelief as the polls changed direction, revealing a country split in two after five years of Berlusconi government.

Center-right leaders were cautious, saying they would wait for official results due later on Monday before commenting.

Nexus said that on the basis of its analysis of returns six hours after polls closed, the center-right was on course to win 158 of the 315 Senate seats up for grabs.

What does this shift mean. Has there been tampering or have Exit polls become meaningless?

by Fran (fran at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 03:53:20 PM EST
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The polls were wrong... or well there have been some tampering. But I doubt it. In Italy there are paper ballots.

I think polls did not count on two or three very bad showings of the left in sicily and la Lombardie... the results there are killing Prodi. So if you want to look for irregualrities, try there. But I doubt it.

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I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Mon Apr 10th, 2006 at 03:54:28 PM EST
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