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Darin, I can see that there is an accumulated animosity towards the roma minority in your diary, and what I found even more surprising is that these sentiments are shared by many other Bulgarians. Macedonia as well has a sizable Roma minority, and their economic situation is no better than in the other Balkan countries, but I can with certainty claim that their political situation is lot better. Currently there are two Roma political parties in Macedonia, and the mere fact that there is a political outlet where this minority can channel their needs and demands is helping in the improvement of their situation.
The number of Roma NGOs (not NGOs run by Macedonians, but NGOs run by Roma citizens is constantly increasing). They have elementary schools in their own language and couple of TV stations.
I believe that the political representation and their promotion into the civil society, as well as the right of education in their mother tongue can solve many of the problems that Bulgaria has regarding the roma minority.
So as long as the Romas are not given political representation you can't expect that things will turn better overnight, you can't expect them to realize by themselves the importance of education and political involvement. AND certainly you can't expect them to get involve in the Bulgarian political system if that system is not designed to accommodate their needs.
Just as an example, the percentage of Bulgarian students at the American University in Bulgaria is over 50, yet is there a single Bulgarian Roma studying here?
I know of one, (Memet who is from the same city as me) and yet the percentage of Macedonians studying here is not more than 5%.
by pavlovska (transbluency(at)mailcity.com) on Tue Apr 18th, 2006 at 10:48:53 PM EST
I see you are a fellow student from the American University, so I am glad to have you posting on my diary!

pavlovska, let me congratulate you on the first post in this diary, which is actually proposing a solution :)

There are small Roma parties in Bulgaria, but they are part of the MFR (the Movement for Freedoms and Rights), which is basically representing the Turk population. I see that the situation we are discussing here is better addressed in Macedonia, which is excellent. Do you have any idea what provoked the Roma to start creating NGO's to help the Roma population?

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by darin (dkaloyanov[at]gmail.com) on Wed Apr 19th, 2006 at 06:10:47 AM EST
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Maybe the MFR is not representing the Turks but minorities? At least the Roma seem to be comfortable inside it? And, given that there are Roma parties in the MFM coalition, are there actually any Roma members of parliament?

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 19th, 2006 at 06:20:17 AM EST
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It's widely accepted as the Turks party - the name is only there so it gets registered (Article 11 prohibits the creation of ethnically based parties). Roma are comfortable inside it, because of political and economic reasons.

Political reasons - they would never get representated in Parliament, unless they enter a coaltion with another party, the logical choice in this case being the MFR.

Economic reasons - with power comes money - and the MFR was one of the most influential parties on the last elections (I think they were first or second by number of votes).

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by darin (dkaloyanov[at]gmail.com) on Wed Apr 19th, 2006 at 06:29:00 AM EST
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Don't you think there is a problem when the 10% minority of Turks and the 5% minority of Roma have to organize themselves into constitutionally forbidden ethnic parties? And this is a problem that the 85% of ethnic Bulgarians need to take the initiative to solve. Encouraging the minorities to emigrate after EU accession  seems to fit the bill, doesn't it?

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 19th, 2006 at 06:34:40 AM EST
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Actually the Bulgarian population was decreasing during the last 15 years and it would be far better to integrate the Roma, than to encourage them to leave.

And there is nothing wrong with the constitution, it forbids ethnic separation of everyone holding a Bulgarian passport. The idea is to have parties focusing on political ideologies (and Turks, Roma and Bulgarians can be part of the party), not ethnic agenda.

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by darin (dkaloyanov[at]gmail.com) on Wed Apr 19th, 2006 at 06:46:14 AM EST
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So, what has Bulgaria done since the fall of communism to reverse the ethnic separation of Bulgarian Gypsies through ghettoization? Not much, it seems:
the gypsy community was strongly oppressed by the Todor Jivkov government. A good example of the time would be the city of Burgas, situated on the Black Sea coast. Gypsies were forced to live in ghettos located near the skirts of the cities and were used for low qualified jobs. At a certain point, gypsies were "encouraged" by the police (then "Milicia") not to leave their ghetto and enter the city as rarely as possible. Every morning several trucks would transport the gypsies in town, before anyone was awake, so they can clean the city, and then transport them back before they could disturb anyone. The Milicia were not very fond of gypsies either - any situation would be dealt with by starting with the individuals with the darkest complexion. It is important to note, that during those years, as well as today, all Bulgarian citizens (everyone with a Bulgarian residence - Bulgarians, Turks and gypsies) were legally required to go to grade school.

Then the communist regime fell and oppressed gypsies, whose jobs were assured by the communist government, were left unemployed and uneducated.
...

Aid workers estimate that 90-95 percent of Roma in Bulgaria are chronically unemployed, hampered by illiteracy and prejudice, and the overall economic slump.


guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 19th, 2006 at 07:00:33 AM EST
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Actually Roma get benefits that Bulgarian don't. No Bulgarian was offered land for free, no Bulgarian can enter a university so easily and for such low taxes. The problem is that I don't see many gypsies taking advantage of the offers.

Interestingly enough, during communist time, there were houses built especially for the Roma (near the town of Rousse). They were quickly disassembled by the Roma, who took everything back to their houses in the ghetto.

So, would you say there is imposed "ghettoization"? I wouldn't. Would you say the Roma want to be part of the society? I wouldn't.

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by darin (dkaloyanov[at]gmail.com) on Wed Apr 19th, 2006 at 11:34:00 AM EST
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Fair enough.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 19th, 2006 at 11:35:44 AM EST
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...no Bulgarian can enter a university so easily and for such low taxes. The problem is that I don't see many gypsies taking advantage of the offers.

Well, as most of them were shoved off to special schools, a form of discrimination thematised repeatedly both my me and Alexandra, this opportunity is none to most, so you shouldn't be surprised.

Facing contempt on a daily basis is another strong factor you seem to not even think of. This really seems a personal experience thing - those who got a taste of it themselves (like me and hitchhiker) do have a picture of what it means, those who didn't can continue to cling to illusions that everyone would have the same opportunities if only they tried.

Interestingly enough, during communist time, there were houses built especially for the Roma (near the town of Rousse).

This (and similar projects by the other 'communist' governments elsewhere) was not much of an intent at integration by the State, more like herding people like guinea pigs into cleaner, brighter ghettos (and tearing up family ties in the process). A later form of this, after 1989, was that some majors tried to segregate poor Romas living in social housing in their towns by building houses for them isolated somewhere outside of town, and then issued an eviction order.

What should be done instead? Some NGOs give help to Romas to renovate or build homes on their own.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Apr 20th, 2006 at 07:18:11 AM EST
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Well, as most of them were shoved off to special schools, a form of discrimination thematised repeatedly both my me and Alexandra

qika PR just posted a great diary thematising this in greater detail - everyone check it out!

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Apr 20th, 2006 at 05:06:46 PM EST
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Thanks for adding an announcement here! I would not have picked up on this story having been offline for the past few days. For anyone else interested here is the direct link: http://www.eurotrib.com/story/2006/4/20/143827/618
by Alexandra in WMass (alexandra_wmass[a|t]yahoo[d|o|t]fr) on Sun Apr 23rd, 2006 at 05:00:25 PM EST
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I found an interesting piece that gives more information on the Macedonia case: "Shayna Plaut: Communication Patterns between Romani Media and NGOs in Macedonia". The www.rrommedia.net site also has links to key roma organizations that have a presence online.
by Alexandra in WMass (alexandra_wmass[a|t]yahoo[d|o|t]fr) on Wed Apr 19th, 2006 at 11:31:52 AM EST
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I am always glad when I see your comment. You always make an extra research on each topic you comment on and I really appreciate that.  
I've checked the report you have put as a link in your comment and it describes the situation in Macedonia very accurately.


(.... There is, however, a severe gap between how Romani media envisions itself, and what the programming scheme actually shows. Roma media is heavily dependent on music/entertainment as opposed to the staff intensive field of news, interviews, and investigative reporting. When examining BTR's current programming scheme, aside from 85 minutes of daily news, the rest of the programming is exclusively music videos and films. Although this may be an extreme example, it is also quite telling considering that the station was founded and runs on the mission of "educating our Roma people". (Dimov pc: 5 September 2003). Two thirds of the Roma media (MRTV and Shutel being the sole exceptions) spend at least 2/3 of their time on the air playing music; these figures do not include the computer-generated night music broadcast.)

This is quite true. Most of the time the Roma media is broadcasting some comic shows, films and lots of music.

Yet, I have to mention a trend that I have recently noticed on the Roma's TV stations (Shutel TV in particular). As of recently some of the major Roma TV stations started to air programs with more educational character. As for example last week I saw one show broadcasted on Shutel TV (roma TV station) where there were several Macedonian and several Roma teenagers engaged in a discussion on a very popular issue- the discrimination in the society. Then, I also saw one program directed to the youngest Roma audience which had the purpose to teach them to write, and the show was done in a very funny way, so no child can resist watching it. Even I regularly watch it. I also saw many documentaries which were synchronized in Roma language.
 So, this is positive step forward, though very limited, as there are only Shutel TV and the national TV station MRTV that broadcast this kind of programs.

by pavlovska (transbluency(at)mailcity.com) on Wed Apr 19th, 2006 at 07:18:19 PM EST
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"I am always glad when I see your comment. You always make an extra research on each topic you comment on and I really appreciate that."

I'm blushing ;-)

Thank you for your comments and insights! The TV program changes you describe are promissing. I would imagine that the more educational and, especially for  children, educational & funny! programming may be more expensive to put together than music, films etc.. so perhaps TV stations have to grow to a certain size to be able to develop and provide that type of programming. The Bulgarian TVRoma, at least as described on their web site, seems to have a more community based approach with call in discussion shows as perhaps a more low budget way of doing some educational programming but it seems they are only on the air a few hours every day and trying to grow with the help of grant funding.

I quoted this earlier but it's relevant here too:


The development of the Roma TV Program Concept has so far been defined by audience interests and by the availability of resources - financial, technical and professional skills. During the first two years the major pAt the end of 2001 and the beginning of 2002 (after the introduction of modern equipment) a three-hour daily program was launched (four-hours during the weekend). We also produce a special show for the big holidays, such as New Year, Vasilovden and others. Every day we produce an average of one and a half to two hours of news and author shows or topical shows, with direct phone participation by the neighborhood audience. In addition we have two hours of educational, entertainment, children's and musical shows. The main topics of our programs are relevant local issues, including the Roma cultural heritage that aims to raise the self-esteem of the Roma people. The daily news includes 3 to 5 reports; the production quality has improved considerably according to our audience as well as by colleagues from other stations in the region.  

Because of the limited financial resources the programs of Roma TV has the look of neighborhood television, with elements of a regional program for the municipality of Vidin. We need more resources if we are going to enter in the national television market.

by Alexandra in WMass (alexandra_wmass[a|t]yahoo[d|o|t]fr) on Thu Apr 20th, 2006 at 11:06:49 AM EST
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Darin, I've thought what might be an incentive for the Roma to become more actively engaged in the civil life and I can't clearly say what it is, because there are multiple factors that can be in game.

Macedonia is probably a best example of a country with the largest number of NGOs per capita and paradoxically with not so developed civil sector. However, among so many NGOs currently operating at the territory of Macedonia some of them have proven to be very successful in the promotion of the improvement of Roma's life by providing legal help, education, awareness campaigns, financial aid and so on. For example when I asked my friend Memet how he found out about this university (AUBG) and how he got the scholarship to study here his response was that the information and the scholarship were provided by Roma NGOs.

There are few Roma political parties but they haven't been very successful as the NGOs, mainly because the NGOs are giving direct help to Romas. There are some NGOs which have their own daily shelters for young Romas, where they have Roma schoolteachers who try to engage the street children in different activities like teaching them to read, reading them stories, showing them cartoons in roma language, than playing with them and giving them food and clothing, so these children start coming there more often because that place is more fun than begging on the streets. Apparently, this is carrot and stick game but it has proven to be successful.

I have few friends who work in the nongovernmental sector and some of them have been involved in some projects for the Roma minorities. Some of the projects included workshops and awareness campaign where Romas are given advices of how they can benefit by becoming involved in the civil society, how to set up their own NGO, how to make projects how to apply to different international organization for financial assistance and raise funds.  So, this kind of workshops and seminars might have helped to the spread of the information and might have been interesting and promising to certain Romas to undertake such activity on their own. And, once one group starts the process than it is very likely that others will follow.

Still, I must say that there is a huge segmentation between the Romas themselves, which has prevented their integration in the society. Some of them are living on the fringes of the society with no interest whatsoever in any kind of activity and others becoming more aware of the benefits they can get by becoming more active and thus are becoming very active.

by pavlovska (transbluency(at)mailcity.com) on Wed Apr 19th, 2006 at 06:25:44 PM EST
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Excellent comment, pavlovska :) Ok, then, if the Bulgarian government invests in a couple of NGO's maybe this will create an avalanche effect and will allow the Roma to create more organizations and help themselves - after all, who knows best how to help the Roma, but themselves (as is the case in Macedonia).

I believe in time all Roma will integrate in the society, even the ones that refuse to, because of the segmentation you mentioned. In fact, I think the time to act is now, because there are only one or two years before we join the European Union and the Roma population has the option to leave the country.

Be careful! Is it classified?

by darin (dkaloyanov[at]gmail.com) on Thu Apr 20th, 2006 at 03:55:02 AM EST
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Hmm, I didn't really understand what you mean when you say that the Roma population has the option to leave the country.
Does that suppose to mean integrate or leave?
Not very good idea.
by pavlovska (transbluency(at)mailcity.com) on Thu Apr 20th, 2006 at 05:14:40 PM EST
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This time I have to come to darin's rescue. I think he meant free motion of EU citizens across borders, and that the EU wouldn't want Bulgaria to join if due to bad integration, masses of Roma would move West. (Where I have to note in darin's direction that free movement is valid only inside the Schengen zone, plus temporary delays may be enacted in old member states.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Apr 20th, 2006 at 05:55:27 PM EST
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Misunderstanding. Thank you for explaining me this.

Well, then Bulgaria's accession to EU might be ideal not just for the Bulgarians but for the Romas as well.

by pavlovska (transbluency(at)mailcity.com) on Thu Apr 20th, 2006 at 07:23:56 PM EST
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If the (decision-making) EU officials are sufficiently aware of the issue and won't sweep it under the rug - as, unfortunately, they mostly did in the previous round (e.g. the same issue in the Czech Republic, Slovakia, and Hungary).

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Fri Apr 21st, 2006 at 04:31:00 AM EST
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I don't know if the issue with minorities is mentioned as a problem for Bulgaria or Romania.
And the EU officials might not be sufficiently aware for the existence of this problem because the Roma are not very vocal in demanding their rights.
So, let's just hope that things will turn on better somehow, someday.
by pavlovska (transbluency(at)mailcity.com) on Fri Apr 21st, 2006 at 07:04:57 AM EST
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I believe someone commented that there are reports on the Roma for the EU, it should be a few posts up.

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by darin (dkaloyanov[at]gmail.com) on Fri Apr 21st, 2006 at 12:36:10 PM EST
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Yes, Alexandra posted it.

But (I tell this in reply to pavlovska) I meant to distinguish decisionmakers: it may well be that a bunch of European Parliament members and a number of bureaucrats working in the accession offices are fully aware of the issues involved, but the decisions will be made by higher-ups who don't read their reports and have other priorities.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Fri Apr 21st, 2006 at 12:46:16 PM EST
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Here is the information I posted earlier:
http://www.eurotrib.com/story/2006/4/13/14453/5466/#54

As Dodo mentioned the issue is whether this knowledge is used in decision making. In the meantime it does shine a light on the situation in Bulgaria and Romania (there is a similar report for Romania).

by Alexandra in WMass (alexandra_wmass[a|t]yahoo[d|o|t]fr) on Sun Apr 23rd, 2006 at 04:51:31 PM EST
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I need to again stress out that I don't really claim that the Romas have integrated in the Macedonian society, but certainly there is a progress.
Among the other factors that might have been influential for the improvement of the Roma's situation, and which I've forgotten to mention, is the war conflict in Macedonia.

It might be that the recent ethnic conflict in Macedonia between the Albanians and Macedonians brought the issue of the respect of minority's rights not just to Albanians but to Roma's as well. I don't know how it is in other multiethnic societies, i.e. if there is ethnic tension between different minority and majority groups and if there is a tendency between different minority groups to stick together or not, but during the war in Macedonia it seemed that the Romas and Macedonians were more close together than Albanians and Romas. Probably that was because most of the Romas speak Macedonian and not Albanian.

This is my personal conclusion because I've read and heard of incidents between the Romas and the Albanians, and the news on some of the Roma TV stations during the war conflict more often resembled to the news of the Macedonian TV stations.
Also, most of the Roma political parties tend to form coalitions with Macedonian parties than with Albanians. So this also can be a reason why it's been more easy and unproblematic to accept the Romas. In addition, the Romas have never been very vocal about their minority rights, and it was obvious that they were the most deprived group in the society, so this might have been a reason plus for people to become more engaged into improving their situation.
Though as I said, the things have just started to get better, many other things regarding the Roma's situation need to be addressed.

by pavlovska (transbluency(at)mailcity.com) on Thu Apr 20th, 2006 at 05:38:17 PM EST
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A more brutal parallel is Kosovo, where KLA off-shoots also hunted away Romas, accusing them of alliance with the Serbs.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Apr 20th, 2006 at 05:57:10 PM EST
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There was this case when more than 700 Romas were expelled from Kosovo after the end of the Kosovo war . They came in Macedonia and as there were no shelters left they continued towards Greece. The Greeks did not let them go on their territory (and the Greeks are renowned for not being able to deal with any of their minorities), so they ended up wandering on Macedonian territory.

In Macedonia there are no Romas that live by the roads in camps, and almost all of them have some kind of a house, very miserable though, and this was the first case to see wandering Romas in Macedonia. Macedonia was very criticized for not being able to find them accommodation.
Fair enough, these people apparently needed support.

Yet, by then a country of 2 milion people had received over  200,000 refugees and the already fragile economy was overburdened with huge expenses for supporting the newly arrived refugees.
I don't know how the whole situation with the Roma ended up, but I remember that it was a huge scandal. And, I found it really scandalous that no one criticized Kosovo or Greece, for it but only Macedonia ended up being harshly criticized.

by pavlovska (transbluency(at)mailcity.com) on Thu Apr 20th, 2006 at 07:19:15 PM EST
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I suppose Macedonia was expected to take care of the gypsies, after allowing them entry. I doubt Greece was criticized for forbidding them entry, as much as Macedonia for not pouring a lot of money to solve the problem, right?

Be careful! Is it classified?
by darin (dkaloyanov[at]gmail.com) on Fri Apr 21st, 2006 at 12:34:54 PM EST
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You are right, Macedonia was expected to take care of those people. Yet during the war shelters were either offered by different families, were built up or different hotels and student dormitories were used as shelters. So, by the end of the war everything was crowded, and it took a year or even more for most of the refugees to return in their countries, and some never did, and this caused a problem when there were new who arrived.

It was also financially unsustainable.By the end of the war the only financial assistance that came from abroad were huge containers with water from USA, and all the rest was supposed to be provided by macedonia.

Still, as you said Macedonia accepted them and then it was supposed to help them, but I am not sure if they legally passed the border or not. Unlike the border between Macedonia and Bulgaria and Macedonia and Greece, the borders with Kosovo on the north and Albania on the west are very porous and not well protected. And in particularly during the war most of people fleeing from Kosovo were let pass the border, without taking in consideration if they have where to stay or not. And even during the ethnic conflict in Macedonia most of the weapon smuggled in Macedonia came from Kosovo, because the borders were not very controlled.

I also remember that there were appeals by some of those Romas for different European countries to take several families under their protection but their calls availed them nothing. So, the international community was very willing to criticise but not very willing to offer any help.

by pavlovska (transbluency(at)mailcity.com) on Fri Apr 21st, 2006 at 02:22:08 PM EST
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Some of the projects included workshops and awareness campaign where Romas are given advices of how they can benefit by becoming involved in the civil society, how to set up their own NGO, how to make projects how to apply to different international organization for financial assistance and raise funds.  So, this kind of workshops and seminars might have helped to the spread of the information and might have been interesting and promising to certain Romas to undertake such activity on their own.

This seems to me like a very interesting approach. I had already noticed that several of the initiatives I looked at where grant funded by foundations. I went back and took a closer look at the Macedonia Romani NGO study:


Romani NGOs can be found throughout Macedonia with the bulk of the active NGOs based in Skopje. Very few of the NGOs could supply reliable data regarding the size of their client base however on average they served 245 people annually. Over 32 donors were supporting the ten NGOs interviewed with the majority receiving funding from both international and national donors. The most frequently mentioned international donors were OSCE, UNHCR and OSI-Budapest; national donors were Soros-Macedonia, MCIC and ECMI. Only Luludi (Skopje) received governmental support. All Romani NGOs supplied project proposals including annual reports and most were willing to make such reports public.
Source: http://www.rrommedia.net/english/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=38&Itemid=29

and at some of the Bulgarian TVRoma funding:


At the end of 2001 as a result of a grant from the Media Program of the Open Society Institute in Budapest, Roma TV bought in modern technical equipment. Training accompanied the equipment grant. As a result the technical resources of Roma TV are equal to those of the other cable stations in the region. Now TV Roma has production capability suitable for quality programs and distribution at the local and national level.web site

It reminds me a bit (this is a gross over simplification I know) of the way  regions in France gained a certain amount of "autonomy" to implement their own plans by being able to get European Union funding for initiatives and not having the French administration in Paris be the only source of project funding.

I noticed, for example, that the Soros foundation has a Roma Participation Program grant specifically designed to fund Roma initiatives and the European Commission has an internship program for young Roma university graduates  from all new EU member states (excluding Cyprus and Malta), Bulgaria, Croatia, Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, Romania, Serbia and Montenegro (including Kosovo), and Turkey.

by Alexandra in WMass (alexandra_wmass[a|t]yahoo[d|o|t]fr) on Thu Apr 20th, 2006 at 11:05:52 AM EST
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Soros, though the most corrupted institution in Macedonia, has helped considerably to the development of the Roma's nongovernmental sector. Yet what I've heard of Memet (I've mentioned him in some of the previous posts) is that he was not able to get scholarship from Soros although he applied as a Roma citizen and was the only one to apply. So he contacted some Roma NGO, i think the name of the NGO was Roma Veritas, who got him a scholarship from Soros Foundation  (Open Society Institute) in Budapest. I don't know how the process really went, but it was surprising that he was turned down by the Macedonian Soros, as I believe he was probably the only Roma applying for a scholarship.
by pavlovska (transbluency(at)mailcity.com) on Thu Apr 20th, 2006 at 02:53:01 PM EST
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Thank you for moving the discussion in the direction of concrete solutions and initiatives!

As for Bulgaria, in addition to the political participation in the MFR (the Movement for Freedoms and Rights) which Darin reports below it also seems there is also a small Roma media presence in Bulgaria including TVRoma (more on that in the boxquote below). For a list of periodicals which regularly publish articles about Roma (including several based in Bulgaria): http://www.osi.hu/rpp/biblio/roma2_2.html

Looking at the staff of the European Roma Rights Center, just as an example, it's also clear that Bulgarians are actively involved in efforts to improve the situation:


Executive Director
Dimitrina Petrova (Bulgaria) is the Executive Director of the ERRC. She is a philosopher and human rights advocate. She was chair of the Human Rights Project (Sofia), a Bulgarian group defending the rights of Roma, a Member of Parliament, and a professor of Philosophy of Law and other courses in Bulgaria and other countries. She received the American Bar Association's Human Rights Award in 1994.

Staff include:
Savelina Danova Russinova is Research and Policy Coordinator. She has a Masters degree in English Philology from the Sofia University, Bulgaria, and is an MA candidate in Human Rights from the Central European University in Budapest. Previously, she was the Director of the Sofia-based Roma rights organisation Human Rights Project.

Toni Tashev is Community and Litigation Development Officer. He holds a Master degree in Law from the Sofia University, Bulgaria, and a diploma for Professional Qualification in Political Management from the Balkans school of politics, Bulgaria. He also completed an International program in NGO Management, Advocacy and Public Campaign Facilitation at the International Peoples`College in Helzingor, Denmark. Since 1995 he has been involved in Romani issues, mainly in activities related to protection of human rights and non-discrimination, advocacy campaigns and community development. Previously, he was an International Advocacy and Legal Adviser of the ERRC. He was also the Legal Director and later the Executive Director of the Sofia-based Roma rights organisation Human Rights Project, an external lecturer in Human Rights and Conflict Resolution at the National Police Academy, Bulgaria, a Project Manager and Policy Coordinator of the Development of Initiatives for Local Alternatives Foundation (DILAF), Bulgaria.


  Mission of TV Roma:

The creators of TV Roma believe that is vital for Roma community to have a media presence, to advance the integration and emancipation of the Roma community. The development of Roma TV is guided by the social purpose of creating a voice and a media home for the Roma community and the other ethnic and cultural minorities. We believe in the need for intercultural communication between the majority and the minorities, a place for dialogue and mutual understanding of the ethnic groups in Bulgaria.

  Audience and distribution:

The program is being distributed in Nov Put, the biggest Roma neighborhood in Vidin, with a population of about 17,000 people, as well is in towns around Vidin, such as Dunavtzi. Individual shows have been provided for distribution to cable operators in the rest of Vidin. Roma TV started in 1998 with a total of 150 subscribers, In 2000 we had 250 subscribers. Currently there are 100 regular subscribers paying their fees, due to the fact that the entire region is suffering a serious depression with high unemployment. The economic situation of the Roma people in Vidin has deteriorated in the last couple of years. Actually the program of TV Roma is watched from the whole neighborhood.30 % of the audience are the families and the relatives of the regular subscribers and there are 70 % of people who have connected illegally to the station.

The development of the Roma TV Program Concept has so far been defined by audience interests and by the availability of resources - financial, technical and professional skills. During the first two years the major pAt the end of 2001 and the beginning of 2002 (after the introduction of modern equipment) a three-hour daily program was launched (four-hours during the weekend). We also produce a special show for the big holidays, such as New Year, Vasilovden and others. Every day we produce an average of one and a half to two hours of news and author shows or topical shows, with direct phone participation by the neighborhood audience. In addition we have two hours of educational, entertainment, children's and musical shows. The main topics of our programs are relevant local issues, including the Roma cultural heritage that aims to raise the self-esteem of the Roma people. The daily news includes 3 to 5 reports; the production quality has improved considerably according to our audience as well as by colleagues from other stations in the region.  

Because of the limited financial resources the programs of Roma TV has the look of neighborhood television, with elements of a regional program for the municipality of Vidin. We need more resources if we are going to enter in the national television market.

by Alexandra in WMass (alexandra_wmass[a|t]yahoo[d|o|t]fr) on Wed Apr 19th, 2006 at 11:30:36 AM EST
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Excellent research, Alexandra, I am not sure, but I have heard about RomaTV.

Actually, while browsing the RomaTV website, I stumbled upon something funny:


 The program is being distributed in Nov Put, the biggest Roma neighborhood in Vidin, with a population of about 17,000 people, as well is in towns around Vidin, such as Dunavtzi... Roma TV started in 1998 with a total of 150 subscribers, In 2000 we had 250 subscribers. Currently there are 100 regular subscribers paying their fees, due to the fact that the entire region is suffering a serious depression with high unemployment. The economic situation of the Roma people in Vidin has deteriorated in the last couple of years. Actually the program of TV Roma is watched from the whole neighborhood. 30% of the audience are the families and the relatives of the regular subscribers and there are 70 % of people who have connected illegally to the station.

A good example of Roma giving bad image to other Roma.

But I am actually impressed by the initiative.

Be careful! Is it classified?

by darin (dkaloyanov[at]gmail.com) on Wed Apr 19th, 2006 at 11:46:06 AM EST
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Just a note - I already quoted the section you quote. To me it's more about unemployment and poverty than a bad image.

I agree TVRoma seems like an important initiative worth supporting. I'd like to know more about it.

I just wish you had done some of this research yourself earlier it's not that hard to find with a few key stokes and google.

by Alexandra in WMass (alexandra_wmass[a|t]yahoo[d|o|t]fr) on Wed Apr 19th, 2006 at 12:17:29 PM EST
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Cable TV costs about 7-15 leva a month, which is usually a priority expense for most families.

About the research - I knew there were Roma organizations, so surely they provide some public service; this however doesn't reflect the argument of this diary (the cultural difference and attitude towards gypsies), but the solution of the problem (which is no way less important).

Be careful! Is it classified?

by darin (dkaloyanov[at]gmail.com) on Wed Apr 19th, 2006 at 01:15:07 PM EST
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They have elementary schools in their own language and couple of TV stations.

This reminds me to note two smaller signs of change for the better in Hungary, too: both of them media that had favorble effect. One is Rádió C (C for cigány = Gypsy), a radio station mainly airing music, which proved a surprise success (e.g. it has a lot of non-Gypsie listeners). Another is that not all talent shows are evil (even if they are crappy): in the one titled Megasztár on a Hungarian TV channel, the second season was won by a Gypsy boy with a great voice (but crappy taste in music IMO), and as the show also followed the participants outside the studio, millions learnt to know a Gyspy life contrary to their stereotypes via their TV screens.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Wed Apr 19th, 2006 at 01:17:45 PM EST
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The similar story happened in Macedonia as well. There is this extra popular M2 multitalent show, which probably has a similar concept to the one you are mentioning -Megasztar. Teenagers are singing, dancing or performing something and some of them get to be chosen to be megastars.
 So, at this moment there are two roma teenagers who -thanks to their well practised Michael Jackson dance moves- managed to become very popular. And there is also this trend among the Macedonian pop stars to call roma dancers to perform with them.

This is very important in multicultural societies, where different ethnic groups have their own favourite pop singers or actors which are mainly from their ethnic group. I have noticed that even this kind of crappy shows can bring cohesiveness among different ethnic groups, because they don't focus on ethnicity but on the abilities that these teenagers possess.

by pavlovska (transbluency(at)mailcity.com) on Wed Apr 19th, 2006 at 07:58:37 PM EST
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