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I gave no reason why they are hated, because I don't know why (I speculated it was because of a combination of history and culture conflicts). I wanted to have a discussion on exactly that, not throwing "racist" at each other, because it is so much easier.

On your second point - you consider petty thefts to be harder than working all day?

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by darin (dkaloyanov[at]gmail.com) on Wed Apr 19th, 2006 at 05:55:57 AM EST
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You think a life of petty crime, living on the run, ans constant run-ins with the police is easier than a job? It wouldn't be for me, that's for sure.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 19th, 2006 at 06:09:11 AM EST
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That's the cultural difference I am talking about!

Oh, btw, Bulgarian gypsies are not exactly nomads, in the sense that they don't move around the country - they prefer to stay in their ghettos.

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by darin (dkaloyanov[at]gmail.com) on Wed Apr 19th, 2006 at 06:12:19 AM EST
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After decades of the government forcing them to stay in ghettos you'd think they would make the ghettos "theirs", wouldn't you? And seeing the attitude of the students in the American University, I'm not surprised if they actually prefer to stay in the ghetto.

I mean, why are they in the ghetto in the first place?

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 19th, 2006 at 06:16:29 AM EST
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Migeru, come on, now the university will get a bad name for supposedly promoting racism? That's absurd, I am actually open about this issue, just as my colleagues, and we want to discuss it. You won't see that with students from other universities in Bulgaria, it's simply not an issue (i.e. it's ignored, "gypsies are gypsies and that's that").

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by darin (dkaloyanov[at]gmail.com) on Wed Apr 19th, 2006 at 11:25:01 AM EST
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My apologies: I did not mean to say the university promotes racism, but that attitudes can only be worse outside of the university, and I have seen plenty of "gypsies are gypsies and that's that" on this thread, too.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 19th, 2006 at 11:34:00 AM EST
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Knowing that they are hated but not knowing why is exactly what entrenched racism is about. Then we go and we rationalize our culture's racism with anecdotal evidence. That does not mean we're racist, but...

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Apr 19th, 2006 at 06:12:26 AM EST
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