To tell you another horror story, half a year before Hungary joined the EU, I was staying for the night after a project with a lot of youths. One of them somehow started talking of Gypsies, and the end of it was him declaring that we would much sooner get into the EU if we deported Gypsies. This utter idiocy was met with loud approval. *Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
tsm, thanks for this. I refrained from commenting in this thread because I felt an instant urge for flaming, but that doesn't solve anything. The views expressed are rather wide-spread hereabouts even among supposedly progressive intellectuals. To tell you another horror story, half a year before Hungary joined the EU, I was staying for the night after a project with a lot of youths. One of them somehow started talking of Gypsies, and the end of it was him declaring that we would much sooner get into the EU if we deported Gypsies. This utter idiocy was met with loud approval.
To tell you another horror story, half a year before Hungary joined the EU, I was staying for the night after a project with a lot of youths. One of them somehow started talking of Gypsies, and the end of it was him declaring that we would much sooner get into the EU if we deported Gypsies. This utter idiocy was met with loud approval.
You instantly stand on the side of the minority, but you don't acknowledge that we are ready to discuss the issue with you. You don't and can't really perceive the situation from the point of view of our culture. What gives you the right (moral or legal) to judge another culture and easily dismiss our arguments, even though you see we are open to the problem and are willing to discuss it?
And about your story - Hungarians, as well as Romanians have a lot of problems with their gypsy population, but the statement that "we would much sooner get into the EU if we deported Gypsies" is utterly stupid and devoid of any sense. What is this, Nazi Germany? You have a point here, DoDo. Be careful! Is it classified?
I address supposedly progressive intellectuals hereabouts (meaning, the formerly communist countries). I haven't bothered about national distinctions because I don't think they matter here. Unlike for the other critics of you, for me all of your stories about Gypsies and all of your arguments are familiar, awfully familiar - these are not Bulgarian things but Central/South-Eastern European things. I was not judging "your culture" but criticising your views (apparently to no avail). *Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
So, we are supposedly progressive and you are actually progressive - are you better than us then? Wasn't this whole talk about equality? I've read a lot of your posts and I honestly picture you as a very well educated person, I would certainly say better educated on a lot of issues compared to me, but you are still stubborn :) Be careful! Is it classified?