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Uh...and...what about the Judicial branch in each of these scenarios? (sorry...).

Also, on the Presidential graph you post...I would say that is how Bush is wanting/pushing it to be...a President stronger (too strong) than the rest of the bodies. The original idea for the American system was in reaction to King George (the original one), so intended the President to only be co-equal...or even less equal than the legislative and Judicial bodies. So it would be

Senate-House of Representatives-Judicial branches...and then the President slightly less (or co-equal). So with Bush (and Reagan and Bush I before him) trying to centralize power in the Presidency, is basically to change the democratic system in a significant way. A return to Monarchy?

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia

by whataboutbob on Thu May 11th, 2006 at 10:35:30 AM EST
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Oops. I see now you are talking about EUROPEAN PRESIDENTS...sorry for my amero-centricism...

"Once in awhile we get shown the light, in the strangest of places, if we look at it right" - Hunter/Garcia
by whataboutbob on Thu May 11th, 2006 at 10:36:34 AM EST
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No, the first graph was for America, and this is also meant for our numerous American readers, so your points are at the right place.


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by DoDo on Thu May 11th, 2006 at 10:46:21 AM EST
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Uh...and...what about the Judicial branch in each of these scenarios? (sorry...).

An interesting difference between arious systems is, BTW, the situation of prosecutors. In the US, the Judiciary is independent, while prosecutors are under the government - under the Attorney General who functions as a minister. I don't know the British system precisely, but it is something not significantly different. English doesn't even have a parallel for "judiciary" for prosecutors - but in some other countries, they are nearly as independent as the judiciary.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu May 11th, 2006 at 10:42:56 AM EST
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In England and Wales there is a Crown Prosecution Service, which is headed by the Director of Public Prosecutions. The Attorney-General answers for the CPS in Parliament and has a statutory duty to grant permission before particularly sensitive kinds of prosecutions can be brought. That was modelled on a much older Scottish system of procurators fiscal. They are (I believe) supervised by something called the Crown Office, which may or may not have something to do with the Scottish law officers of the Crown.

[As a minor point the English Crown Office is part of the High Court office and is the place you go to issue an application for Judicial Review. As ever the English and Scottish legal systems are quite distinct and only come together at the level of the House of Lords - its judicial role soon to be transferred to a Supreme Court, its creation being a sign of the growth in separation of powers ideas in the UK).

In British practise the law officers and prosecution authorities are a semi-detached part of the executive, so political considerations should not affect prosecution decisions.

The first Labour government in 1924 fell, at least in form, when its Attorney General was accused of letting political considerations affect the decision not to prosecute a Communist editor and the Conservatives supported a Liberal amendment calling for an enquiry (which was treated as a motion of confidence).

by Gary J on Thu May 11th, 2006 at 10:03:25 PM EST
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