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A weak grid or to few power plants due to red tape or something like that?

No, that was the industry spin. In reality, there was enough capacity, but Enron and PGE gamed the system with devious tricks. For example, organising a simulataneous power-up of large industrial consumers. The California Energy Crisis was the largest scam in recent history.

it is seen as rather successful

By whom? By what standard? (This is not a retort, I don't know much about the situation there and am curious.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu May 18th, 2006 at 06:39:37 AM EST
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Well, by economists and pundits in a comparison with other de-regulations I guess.

The reason I think it has worked reasonably well is that there has been no need to invest in new capacity since the deregulation (in 1996) as demand growth has been slow and there were some overcapacity. And now when there is a need to invest the power companies will just uprate the nuclear power plants (by a whopping 1500 MW!), so there has luckily been no opportunity to build natural gas plants.

What people are complaining about is that Eon (owned by German interests), Fortum (owned by the Finnish state), Statkraft (owned by the Norwegian state) and Vattenfall (owned by the Swedish state) dominates the market entirely and use their market power to raise prices. This might be true. And since the vast profits of the state owned energy companies goes straight into the state budgets, they work like an indirect tax on electricity. Which means the states are not interested in doing anything about it all.

What the foolish economists are saying is that we should split the companies to increase competition. Thee result will only be that our national champions will be bought by foreign national champions and the oligopoly will continue.

Re-regulation is, imho, the only solution.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Thu May 18th, 2006 at 08:24:06 AM EST
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What people are complaining about is that Eon (owned by German interests), Fortum (owned by the Finnish state), Statkraft (owned by the Norwegian state) and Vattenfall (owned by the Swedish state) dominates the market entirely and use their market power to raise prices.

So the situation is like that of the German deregulation, apparently (except for no semi-monopolist fight against upsurging regeneratives).

Re-regulation is, imho, the only solution.

Agreed for the current macroproducers, though I'd also like major reform in the form of feed-in laws - that would create small local competitors.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu May 18th, 2006 at 09:49:55 AM EST
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The reason I think it has worked reasonably well is that there has been no need to invest in new capacity
Moral: don't privatize infrastructure: it won't work.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu May 18th, 2006 at 04:07:26 PM EST
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It might work with the correct regulation. Before deregulation we had many private power companies and it worked well, the French have privatized highways and it works quite well (doesn't it?).

Privatised infrastructure does not work when regulations are lax. Regulations must make sure there are enough investments. Our old power regulations demanded power companies invested a certain amount in new capacity and backup capacity etc (or really that they could guarantee there was only like one power shortage in five years or something like that, but in effect it means having to invest in capacity).

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Fri May 19th, 2006 at 08:13:34 AM EST
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These two quotes from the  second batch of Enron tapes say it all:

"What we need to do is to help in the cause of, ah, downfall of California," an employee is heard saying on the tapes. "You guys need to pull your megawatts out of California on a daily basis."

"They're on the ropes today," says another employee. "I exported like a f------g 400 megs."

"Wow,'' says another employee, "f--k 'em, right!"

"It's called lies. It's all how well you can weave these lies together, Shari, alright, so," an employee is heard saying.

The other employee says, "I feel like I'm being corrupted now."

The first employee adds, "No, this is marketing,"

"OK.''



*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu May 18th, 2006 at 09:30:38 AM EST
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