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there's a lot of conceptual power here.  for example, a dignitarian society would allow people their dignity even in criminal proceedings -- humiliation, torture, sexual abuse of prisoners would be absolutely unacceptable.  a dignitarian society would frown on humiliation as a form of humour -- i.e. would be far less thrilled with TV shows and other forms of entertainment which depend for their kick on humiliations and indignities heaped on "losers".  much of what is derided by the rude and the Right as "political correctness" is an attempt to prohibit assaults on various peoples' dignity.  a dignitarian society would value respect, while not fetishising authority and power (because slavish obedience is not dignified).  a dignitarian society would protect the "right to death with dignity" rather than allowing its medical system to keep people alive against their will in humiliating circumstances.

aside from physical harm, the essence of "abuse" is the violation of another person's dignity, whether it be the brutal and/or unnecessary strip search by corrupt cops, or the humiliating hoops one is forced to jump through to obtain social aid under many programmes.  if this violation of dignity were recognised as an offence in and of itself, there would be less insistence on proof of gross physical harm to recognise that harm had, in fact, occurred.  we wouldn't be seeing hideous  quasi-jesuitical debates about whether it's really "torture" if major metabolic function is not impaired.

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...

by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Mon May 22nd, 2006 at 03:18:19 AM EST
A very insightful elaboration of some of the important implications of dignitarian social values. Thanks much. -- Bob Fuller

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by Robert Fuller (manfestdignity@breakingranks.net) on Mon May 22nd, 2006 at 12:30:15 PM EST
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 "...there's a lot of conceptual power here.  for example, a dignitarian society would allow people their dignity even in criminal proceedings -- humiliation, torture, sexual abuse of prisoners would be absolutely unacceptable. ..."

 This was one of the first things that came to my mind, as well, in reading the diary; and it came to mind precisely in the context of your previous defense of prisoners' rights.


 "if this violation of dignity were recognised as an offence in and of itself, there would be less insistence on proof of gross physical harm to recognise that harm had, in fact, occurred.  we wouldn't be seeing hideous  quasi-jesuitical debates about whether it's really "torture" if major metabolic function is not impaired.

  Exactly.  A much-needed observation.

"In such an environment it is not surprising that the ills of technology should seem curable only through the application of more technology..." John W Aldridge

by proximity1 on Mon May 22nd, 2006 at 01:23:43 PM EST
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