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I think it certainly has something to do with the unprecedented destructive power of the technology;  inmediate severe damage in a short timeframe (very perceptible to humans as "disaster", more so than the slo-mo kind) and yet persistent, lasting damage over timeframes so long as to be almost transhuman.  inherently Apocalyptic I guess -- poker doesn't get much more high-stakes than this;  and it's not a private gamble, as so many people in the plume path found out when the Chernobyl team fumbled the ball.  the risk from nuclear technology is willynilly shared by (imposed) on all, even if the benefits are more locally constrained.

this sense of having risk imposed on one against one's will (and risk of a high order) I think is a major component of contranuke anger and passion... much as nonsmokers can get really, really angry about being obliged to breathe others' cigarette smoke...  nuclear particles are about as invasive as it gets, wandering right through our cell walls;  a very intimate form of turf violation.  only in the last few years are people beginning to understand the degree to which industrial chemicals generally have violated the skin boundary and taken up permanent residence in our bodies;  I think the moment of political anger on that issue is yet to come...

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...

by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Wed May 24th, 2006 at 06:30:57 PM EST
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Funny, tobacco smoke makes me really, really angry but I cannot bring myself to actually tell smokers in public places to put out their cigarettes (or pipes, as was the case at one point during the ET meetup).

The health risks from food additives and vehicle exhaust are probably higher and more widespread than those from nuclear power, excluding Chernobyl, but since they are mostly self-inflicted they're ok I suppose. Like the camel-smoking anti-capitalist Barbara met in Athens recently. And when it comes to accidents, in London we recently had this reminder of the price of gasoline addiction:

In May 2006 Three Valleys Water announced that it had detected the fire retardant perfluorooctane sulfonate (PFOS), used in fire fighting foam, in a ground water bore hole close to the Buncefield site. It stated that no water from this well entered the public water supply and that a nearby well and pumping station had been closed since the fire as a precaution. The chemical is a known health risk and the UK government had been about to ban its use. However just prior to the announcement the Drinking Water Inspectorate announced that it was increasing the safe level of the chemical in drinking water. This prompted the Hemel Hempstead MP, Mike Penning to accuse the government of changing the rules to suit the situation in which PFOS levels in drinking water in the area may rise in the future. (wiki)


guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed May 24th, 2006 at 06:49:20 PM EST
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nuclear particles are about as invasive as it gets, wandering right through our cell walls;  a very intimate form of turf violation
Sometimes it's good that radiation wanders right through our cell walls, especially if you have cancer.

PET scanning is non-invasive, but it does involve exposure to ionizing radiation. The total dose of radiation is small, however, usually around 7 mSv. This can be compared to 2.2 mSv average annual background radiation in the UK, 0.02 mSv for a chest X-Ray, up to 8 mSv for a CT scan of the chest, 2-6 mSv per annum for aircrew, and 7.8 mSv per annum background exposure in Cornwall (Data from UK National Radiological Protection Board). (wiki)


guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed May 24th, 2006 at 07:21:54 PM EST
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apples and oranges, migeru -- I mean, it's a good thing that a modern hypodermic is nice and sharp and can deliver dental anaesthetic to my tooth roots with minimal gum damage, but that doesn't mean I would be happy about random jabs from sharps wielded by strangers or left lying about :-)  the turf-violation aspect obviously applies to involuntary exposure, not formalised and voluntary medical procedures...  more on (in)voluntary risk and perception later...

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...
by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Wed May 24th, 2006 at 09:22:34 PM EST
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I'm just being provocative, but as for risk perception... Isn't it interesting that Nuclear Magnetic Resonance has been renamed Magnetic Resonance Imaging so as not to scare people, even though NMR has nothing to do with nuclear radiation and, say, PET does?

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu May 25th, 2006 at 02:51:30 AM EST
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