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DoDo, if sabotage is the measure, nothing should be done.

Could you run a railway if there were a determined group of SUV drivers ready to lie on the track in front of every train?

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 23rd, 2006 at 01:12:41 PM EST
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If you reject sabotage per se, no civil disobedience is possible.

As for the second, of course not - question is which of these protests gains sufficient number of devoted supporters. (BTW, in Greece, private bus and lorry drivers did in fact protested against the upgrade of the Athens-Thessaloniki railway by leaving old buses/lorries in crossings.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue May 23rd, 2006 at 01:17:49 PM EST
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There is civil disobedience and there is sabotage.

That's the kind of protest that leads me to forget all solidarity with bus and lorry drivers.

Hey, how about we get someone to sneak into a reactor core and get a lethal dose of radiation to demonstrate that nuclear power is deadly?

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue May 23rd, 2006 at 01:21:15 PM EST
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How long do you continue to pretend that these protests could have caused a spill?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue May 23rd, 2006 at 01:24:17 PM EST
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If you reject sabotage per se, no civil disobedience is possible.

A question. How far should civil disobedience go before it is punished mildly, severely? Apply this to protesters who you disagree with e.g. anti-abortion activists.  Is putting glue in the locks of clinics ok, is blocking the entrance of clinics ok, is harassing women entering the clinics ok, how about employees...?   Arguing that such practices were equivalent to the mob enforcing protection money against businesses, the Clinton Justice Department sought to financially destroy the organizations that promoted the protests and their leaders. Any problems with that? How about applying it to those who organize the CASTOR blockades?

by MarekNYC on Tue May 23rd, 2006 at 01:48:58 PM EST
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By the way, some definitions.

Do you consider a sit-in blockade sabotage?

What about people chaining themselves to the rails?

What about people climbing on the railcars?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Tue May 23rd, 2006 at 01:23:00 PM EST
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