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How does micropower work for densely populated regions, e.g. where I live.

You say local decision making - but what is local? - neighbourhood, town, county, state, nation? Say a town in upstate doesn't want the power plant to give energy to the city and its densely populated suburbs. Say the city and the densely populated suburbs don't want to pay the taxes that subsidize the (poorer) rural areas. Say the rich school districts say fuck the poor ones, it's not our problem. Say the rich coastal second home owners don't want those wind towers screwing up their views, and to hell with the interests of everybody else.  Say the locals in Alaska want their drilling, feeling that the money they'll get outweighs the environmental damage, say a community wants that polluting plant - sure it's bad for the river, but only downstream from us.

There's also an implication that decentralized small communities are better. In what way? In the US there's a pretty good correlation between population density and political ideology - the greater the density, the more left wing. Thank you, but I'll take NYC over rural  upstate, DC over rural Virginia,  Berlin over rural Brandenburg, Wroclaw over rural Silesia. And it's not just the cities - in many ways old, densely populated suburbs are also more progressive than either old rural communities or new exurbs.

What's inherently eco-friendly about 'micropower' - are home coal heating systems like you get in older central European housing better than better than a megaproject steam heating network? (Aaah, the sweet smell of a small Polish town in winter;)

What is 'micropower.'? Is a big windfarm 'micropower'? It's a pretty big capital investment - much more so upfront for power generated than a big fossil fuel plant.

by MarekNYC on Mon May 22nd, 2006 at 12:07:47 PM EST
all good points MarekNYC.  I did mention that micropower using coal presented emissions control issues -- as Londoners found in the 40's through early 60's... in 1952 4,000 people died in London of pulmonary insult and reduced visibility during a 5-day nightmare of "pea-soup" fog curdled with coal smoke.  This led to a ban on the use of coal in domestic hearths and its replacement by coke, which burns cleaner.  (Oddly enough coal burning has been banned in London on several occasions through the city's history, going as far back as 1150 or thereabouts iirc).
Pollution had been seen as the price of progress, but the smog of 1952 woke the public to the terrible toll. The National Society for Clean Air (NSCA) says of the smog: "It marks the dividing line between the general acceptance of air pollution as a natural consequence of industrial development, and the understanding that progress without pollution control is no progress at all."

But it took years of compaigning to get the Conservative government to accept reform. To cover up the true extent of the smog disaster the government invented an influenza epidemic. In fact research has shown there was no epidemic and that the thousands more people who continued to die for the next four months did so because of the air pollution.

The government's policies were at least partly to blame. To maximise revenue the UK was exporting its clean coal and keeping the sulphur laden "dirty" coal for UK power stations and domestic fires. The result was a combination of soot laden air and droplets of sulphuric acid lying in a 200ft deep blanket across London, leading to the worst smog ever recorded.

Lies, stupid cover stories, and profiteering at the public expense -- nothing new.

I hope to return to micropower as a subject in its own right in a future diary RSN, with some theory, some success stories, and some urban as well as rural applications.

The difficulty of resolving local autonomy with polity-wide strategy is persistent.  Whether it is local cost imposed by distant benefit, or general cost imposed by local benefit, there is a skewing of CBA and  a serious challenge to democratic process.  This is imho one of the very good reasons for seeking solutions with least-toxic byproducts and minimum radius -- rather than the "extract and excrete" model we have been using since the kickstart of industrialism.  But more on this later.  All very good challenging questions and fodder for multiple diaries!


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by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Mon May 22nd, 2006 at 06:03:36 PM EST
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afterthought:  large scale finance capitalism certainly adds to this problem as we repeatedly see the argument that maximising the return for shareholders scattered all over Country A is a "greater good for greater number" and trumps the local rights of indigenes, pastoralists, subsistence farmers etc.  there's a serious modelling problem for democracy when investors provide the aegis for corporations whose "externalised" costs are inflicted not merely hundreds but thousands of miles away, under a whole different government and legal system...

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by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Mon May 22nd, 2006 at 08:13:58 PM EST
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sorry that was supposed to be "indigenes etc in Country B"

this delocalisation or dislocation of benefit from consequences strikes me as a fundamental problem.

The difference between theory and practise in practise ...

by DeAnander (de_at_daclarke_dot_org) on Mon May 22nd, 2006 at 08:24:44 PM EST
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