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I can understand the gruesome revenge fantasies of someone directly affected by a crime but not the generalized ones. And while ugly prison conditions are by no means limited to America, I don't recall seeing the sort of social glee in that fact elsewhere - indifference yes, but not 'rah rah rape'.  
by MarekNYC on Thu May 4th, 2006 at 06:52:33 PM EST
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That seems to be part of a borader attitude towards imprisonment. In the US the broad consensus seems to be that imprisonment is about retribution and 'locking people away' (and throwing away the key, I suppose). I think in Europe the purpose of imprisonment is seen to be reform and reinsertion. A lot of the right-wing "tough on crime" rhetoric is about more retribution and less reform, while in the US the "tough on crime" position is for the death penalty.

tens of millions of people stand to see their lives ruined because the bureaucrats at the ECB don't understand introductory economics -- Dean Baker
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu May 4th, 2006 at 07:06:02 PM EST
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I think that's partially true - the reform and reinsertion part has clearly been lost in the US. However, retribution and 'locking people away' is part of the imprisonment equation in Europe as well. But what is being glorified in the rape jokes isn't simply punishment, it's torture.  To use an analogy - when raising kids, all parents and schools employ discipline, meaning punishment for bad behaviour, along of course with an attempt at teaching them to behave better, but there's a difference between legitimate discipline and child abuse.
by MarekNYC on Thu May 4th, 2006 at 07:19:54 PM EST
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