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it is tough to say that.. well really tough to say that...it could hurt your feelings..a little bit, but since we are one year old (or on the day after...) I think it is OK to give my point of view (I generally do nto like to give my point of view on some issues.. this is one of them.. but you were so open that I feel I need rto corresponde).

I am afraid Jerome, that you will probably be disappointed if you expect a dramatic growth. As LEP so correctly said, we are not in a crisis, there are mainstream left-wing media, the myth structures in Europe that allow for center-left policies are well in place and people do not feel like politics is so important now.

I agree that the main problem (I ahve no doubt) for ET growth is language. Noone of my friends would like ever to contribute here...it is just not catalan or not spanish. I think I could find  three or four friends interested if it would be in spanish or catalan..but the truth is that on content probably I could convince for sure only one person if it were in spanish.

So, I understand that you feel sorry that we are not more and I sense your slight disappointment. Jerome I would not like you to get sad. I would perfectly understand if you feel like "this is not working".. probably you do not feel it now.. but given the narrative you use I could expect that it could happen to you.

MY humble, humble humble advice..Ok, OK oK no.. no advice...you did this site.. you have all the right to think whatever you want and wish for the future of this site. So I would say.. my humble opinion is... do not take badly if we do not expect this growth and expect (and sometimes wish, not sure about it) that a natural and small growth is better. Small things can also be beatiful...sometimes a pebble in the sand is nicer than a supernova...beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, they say.

I feel sorry if we are not able to bring more people as you expected. And I hope you do not get angry with us...

And I close it here... hoping that this wonderful year goes on for another year....I know I could say more things about it.. but it is time to close the post one-year old thoughtful stupid analysis that I do sometimes.

Forgive me in advance...

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Tue Jun 13th, 2006 at 08:25:23 AM EST
All you say makes sense, and you will note that I am not asking for a change of scale, just more organic growth. So far, we have grown fairly regularly, and get new active members now and then.

We might be noticed even if small, if we continue to provide quality content - and have the manpower to get the media to notice us (by writing smart letters and papers on topics in the news, on the basis of our debates here). That's why I say we must grow some more.

Not a hundred fold, but having a few more people able to write letters or policy papers, run the wiki or create the thinktank website, etc would be good.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 13th, 2006 at 08:33:16 AM EST
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If what you expect is some more organic growth, then what I said or say is not relevant nor interesting.
In this case, what I feel you may feel (like disappointed or happy or whatever) is not relevant.

Each person has its own aspirations, expectations, wishes...and I hate to get in the middle of any of them.. so please do not consider that I apply any of my previous comments about you in this case.

I just wanted to be open in the case you expected or wanted a dramatic growth (I got that impression wrongly). And even in that case I was very reluctant to say it.

Keep the good work...

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Tue Jun 13th, 2006 at 08:44:48 AM EST
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I think this
I agree that the main problem (I ahve no doubt) for ET growth is language. Noone of my friends would like ever to contribute here...it is just not catalan or not spanish. I think I could find  three or four friends interested if it would be in spanish or catalan..but the truth is that on content probably I could convince for sure only one person if it were in spanish.
is both relevant and interesting. I have not been able to get any of my friends to contribute, though one of them did register an account.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 13th, 2006 at 08:47:03 AM EST
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Yeah.. if you take this out of the place it was written and give it a general meaning, yes..it may count as I personal experience that may be interesting...

Thanks for pointing it out. And even more glad to know that I am not alone :)

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Tue Jun 13th, 2006 at 08:49:55 AM EST
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I'd love to see dramatic growth, but I want it for the right reasons, not thanks to a lowering of standards or by becoming something too different from what we have now.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 13th, 2006 at 09:00:22 AM EST
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.. it applies :)

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I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Tue Jun 13th, 2006 at 09:29:10 AM EST
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This is actually something that I hope to do a little research on in the future. LEP and kcurie's point that the growth of a new political communication medium needs to do so in opposition to the prevailing authorities is something that I've been mulling over myself.

Talk radio grew in the Clinton years. The Left Blogosphere is growing in the Bush years. Even samzidat needed the Soviet Union. Does this have to be the pattern or are there others? Can a European blogosphere develop in the absence of a prevailing feeling of political impotence? It's an interesting question.

Still...we can try.

Now to read the rest of the diary comments.

by gradinski chai on Tue Jun 13th, 2006 at 11:48:28 AM EST
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Can a European blogosphere develop in the absence of a prevailing feeling of political impotence? It's an interesting question.
I feel political impotence on a European level. Make this a diary with a poll and see how the poll comes out.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 13th, 2006 at 11:50:14 AM EST
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OK, I'll put it on tomorrow's list of things for me to do.
by gradinski chai on Tue Jun 13th, 2006 at 11:55:46 AM EST
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It is possible...but even if we had the perfect translator the growth would be much more lower.

Places with more to the left/right policies and discussion would probably had more audience, they will be a gathering place.

About the impact.. we are certainly quite mainstream in the narratives we use...so I guess an organic growth would be enough to have impact three four years down the road..it is highly probable that we do not need the exponential growth to obtain some relevance... or at least this is what Jerome expects. Again..some years down the road.

A pleasure

I therefore claim to show, not how men think in myths, but how myths operate in men's minds without their being aware of the fact. Levi-Strauss, Claude

by kcurie on Tue Jun 13th, 2006 at 12:00:03 PM EST
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Random note that occured to me earlier: Internet penetration is also important  - some countries have much lower participation than others.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 13th, 2006 at 03:38:35 PM EST
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