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ö = ö.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 05:47:22 AM EST
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I know. oe is two keystrokes, while ö is 6. I use both interchangeably without giving it much thought.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 05:49:27 AM EST
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At least German has ligatures. In Spanish or French you can't get away from horrendous stuff like ñ or ç

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 05:51:57 AM EST
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Using the alt key doesn't work? Everything here should be in latin1, so I generally get away with just typing the accents directly.

Though it means I have to use a UK keyboard setting rather than an Irish one because the Irish keyboard only has the Irish accents directly.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 05:55:33 AM EST
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How do you type accents with a UK keyboard, exactly? It has no dead keys.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 05:58:39 AM EST
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"alt-e e" yields é. "alt-i o" yields "ô". On the Mac keyboard anyway. Windows does something similar or the same. Not sure about Linux: last time I looked on FreeBSD it was sort-of dependent on how up-to-date the applications were. Gnome/KDE should be able to handle it and I'd be shocked it your browser couldn't.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 06:03:46 AM EST
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Ok, so I can get áéíóú. For Latin-1 we're still missing graves and circumflexes, dieresis, cedille, tilde...

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 06:08:50 AM EST
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by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 06:11:43 AM EST
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On my keyboard, Alt+3+o gives ô, Alt+2+e gives ě, Alt+=+c gives ç. But I have a Hungarian keyboard -- you should look up somewhere whether the UK keyboards has shortcuts. (If not, you still have the Alt+numeric code possibility, which is four keystrokes vs. html's 6 or more.)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 07:06:19 AM EST
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HTML has the advantage the names are mnemonics. Good luck memorizing unicode ;-)

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 07:09:57 AM EST
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Could depend on how many you need and how often. I need áéíóöőúüű in Hungarian, so a decade ago when Hungarian keyboards weren't yet available on most PCs (and on all at the university), I did memorise the codes without problem. After just short use, I could use them without thinking, my hands did it automatically. (But by now I forgot half of it...)

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 07:17:21 AM EST
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But by now I forgot half of it

A meditation semi-guru I knew in Sri Lanka once told me, I quote:

"Bliss is waking up in the morning and not remembering what you did the day before."

I quote him anytime someone complains that I should remember the physics and maths I once learned.

by Alex in Toulouse on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 07:20:33 AM EST
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The more math/physics you know the less you need to remember. Maybe you didn't learn enough ;-)

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 07:31:55 AM EST
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I'm not sure if I'd call that bliss. In my experience, those kinds of mornings are usually associated with a splitting headache.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman
by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 07:56:39 AM EST
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