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...the problem is I don't trust Schröder n/t (4.00 / 2)

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 04:06:49 AM EST
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Re: ...the problem is I don't trust Schröder n/t (none / 0)

"Trust me, there is no alternative to my employer".

Which may be true, but does not particularly invite trust.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 04:09:12 AM EST
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Re: ...the problem is I don't trust Schröder n/t (none / 0)

I didn't meant his relationship with the company -- depending on the person, an elder statesman from another country just setting up that relationship could be viewed as a vote of trust. I meant trust in his person.

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 04:12:54 AM EST
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Re: ...the problem is I don't trust Schröder n/t (none / 1)

Well, to me the fact that he couldn't wait to go work for Gazprom after losing the Chancery is reason for distrust.

But you have paid more attention to German politics during his tenure so have other reasons.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 04:16:53 AM EST
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Re: ...the problem is I don't trust Schröder n/t (4.00 / 2)

Your and my reasons aren't un-linked -- during his tenure (both as Chancellor and before that as Niedersachsen PM), Schröder has been a promoter of gas, and was rather cozy with German energy giants (also) in the gas business. (Plus he was rather opportunist and business-lobby-ist in foreign policy, including his courting of Putin -- which may have had a good overall effect in Germany-Russia and EU-Russia relations, but not because of his diplomatic genius...)

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 04:29:52 AM EST
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Re: ...the problem is I don't trust Schröder n/t (4.00 / 2)

But on this he is absolutely right.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 04:53:27 AM EST
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Re: ...the problem is I don't trust Schröder n/t (4.00 / 2)

In politics you not only have to be honest, you have to appear honest. He has a conflict of interest.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 04:56:50 AM EST
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Re: ...the problem is I don't trust Schröder n/t (none / 0)

Yes. Unfortunate but also absolutely true.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 05:06:43 AM EST
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Re: ...the problem is I don't trust Schröder n/t (none / 0)

I mean, it's not what you wrote which is unfortunate, it is that as it applies here, it weakens the important point that Schröder is making.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 05:30:14 AM EST
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Re: ...the problem is I don't trust Schröder n/t (none / 0)

Isn't it interesting that, even though Schroeder has ostensibly moved into the private sector, it's still "politics"?

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 05:32:32 AM EST
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Re: ...the problem is I don't trust Schröder n/t (none / 0)

ö = ö.

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 05:47:22 AM EST
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Re: ...the problem is I don't trust Schröder n/t (none / 0)

I know. oe is two keystrokes, while ö is 6. I use both interchangeably without giving it much thought.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 05:49:27 AM EST
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Re: ...the problem is I don't trust Schröder n/t (none / 0)

At least German has ligatures. In Spanish or French you can't get away from horrendous stuff like ñ or ç

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 05:51:57 AM EST
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Re: ...the problem is I don't trust Schröder n/t (none / 0)

Using the alt key doesn't work? Everything here should be in latin1, so I generally get away with just typing the accents directly.

Though it means I have to use a UK keyboard setting rather than an Irish one because the Irish keyboard only has the Irish accents directly.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 05:55:33 AM EST
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Re: ...the problem is I don't trust Schröder n/t (none / 0)

How do you type accents with a UK keyboard, exactly? It has no dead keys.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 05:58:39 AM EST
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Re: ...the problem is I don't trust Schröder n/t (none / 0)

"alt-e e" yields é. "alt-i o" yields "ô". On the Mac keyboard anyway. Windows does something similar or the same. Not sure about Linux: last time I looked on FreeBSD it was sort-of dependent on how up-to-date the applications were. Gnome/KDE should be able to handle it and I'd be shocked it your browser couldn't.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 06:03:46 AM EST
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Re: ...the problem is I don't trust Schröder n/t (none / 0)

Ok, so I can get áéíóú. For Latin-1 we're still missing graves and circumflexes, dieresis, cedille, tilde...

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 06:08:50 AM EST
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Re: ...the problem is I don't trust Schröder n/t (none / 0)

For windows at some stage in its history.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 06:11:43 AM EST
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Re: ...the problem is I don't trust Schröder n/t (none / 0)

On my keyboard, Alt+3+o gives ô, Alt+2+e gives ě, Alt+=+c gives ç. But I have a Hungarian keyboard -- you should look up somewhere whether the UK keyboards has shortcuts. (If not, you still have the Alt+numeric code possibility, which is four keystrokes vs. html's 6 or more.)

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 07:06:19 AM EST
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Re: ...the problem is I don't trust Schröder n/t (none / 0)

HTML has the advantage the names are mnemonics. Good luck memorizing unicode ;-)

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 07:09:57 AM EST
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Re: ...the problem is I don't trust Schröder n/t (none / 0)

Could depend on how many you need and how often. I need áéíóöőúüű in Hungarian, so a decade ago when Hungarian keyboards weren't yet available on most PCs (and on all at the university), I did memorise the codes without problem. After just short use, I could use them without thinking, my hands did it automatically. (But by now I forgot half of it...)

_{*Lunatic*, n.

One whose delusions are out of fashion.}

by DoDo on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 07:17:21 AM EST
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Re: ...the problem is I don't trust Schröder n/t (none / 1)

But by now I forgot half of it

A meditation semi-guru I knew in Sri Lanka once told me, I quote:

"Bliss is waking up in the morning and not remembering what you did the day before."

I quote him anytime someone complains that I should remember the physics and maths I once learned.

by Alex in Toulouse on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 07:20:33 AM EST
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Re: ...the problem is I don't trust Schröder n/t (none / 0)

The more math/physics you know the less you need to remember. Maybe you didn't learn enough ;-)

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 07:31:55 AM EST
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Re: ...the problem is I don't trust Schröder n/t (none / 0)

I'm not sure if I'd call that bliss. In my experience, those kinds of mornings are usually associated with a splitting headache.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 07:56:39 AM EST
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Re: ...the problem is I don't trust Schröder n/t (none / 1)

There's still an element of "he would say that, wouldn't he?" to it. Even if he is right the integrity of the message is undermined by his employment.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Tue Jun 20th, 2006 at 05:01:07 AM EST
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