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What's your preferred method for reconciling Gen Rel and QM? I thought that was the core problem?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Sun Jun 25th, 2006 at 12:20:49 PM EST
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Loop quantum gravity, obviously (from the hints I've dropped about my background) but the jury is still out on that one.

I'm not sure it works either, but it's more sensible that Strings for a number of reasons. On the other hand, it is quite possible that String theory describes an effective theory of Quantum Gravity. Lee Smolin spent a considerable amount of time trying to study the connection between Strings and loops: both have 1D fundamental excitations.

The point is, we know what's wrong with our current theories, and we have two theories that seem mathematically consistent but which (in completely different ways) are not complete and fail to make contact with experiment.

Experimentally, we haven't even detected a classical gravitational vawe, and we pretend we're going to be able to decide between competing candidates for a theory of quantum gravity?

If the LHC finds supersimetric particles, the String theory crowd will call that a successful prediction of the theory, when there are loads of extension of the Standard model that also include supersymmetry. If supersymmetric particles are not found, string theory is dead... or maybe they'll just pust the "expected" mass of the lightest supersymmetric particle just above the attainable limit, as they have been doing for 30 years.

In the long run, we're all misquoted — not Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 25th, 2006 at 12:35:34 PM EST
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What do you think of the recent progress in dynamic triangulations? (And what does this have to do with loop quantum gravity, anyway?)

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by technopolitical on Sun Jun 25th, 2006 at 02:14:27 PM EST
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Are you talking about the work of Jan Ambjørn and Renate Loll in <wake up, Nomad!> Utrecht?

For the rest. I am definitely going to have to collate all the questions people are asking and write a diary.

In the long run, we're all misquoted — not Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 25th, 2006 at 02:21:28 PM EST
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I'm drunk after Portugal - The Netherlands.

Those people are sitting in the building beside Earth Sciences; we even share the same canteen. They scare me with their intellect. How could I possibly ask a question to people like Gerard 't Hooft and not look like a dummy with my questions?

by Nomad on Sun Jun 25th, 2006 at 06:03:38 PM EST
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Before I gave up on a research career I was actually considering applying for a post-doc with Amjorn and Loll...

BTW, I need to diary 't Hooft's holographic principle. Beautiful stuff. Another wonderful thing he invented is something called "planar graphs and the 1/n expansion"...

In the long run, we're all misquoted — not Keynes

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 25th, 2006 at 06:10:08 PM EST
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"Threading" with you has not been too daunting... ;)

I'm really starting to think science missed out on you. And perhaps I'm too inchoate in this, but I've a small drive to pursue a succesful "career" in science - as people I've spoken to keep wishing me as a goodbye. I try science because I still get satisfaction out of it and I know that I'm good at some aspects of it. Bugger career... When I'm through with science, I'll try something else. Enough plans.

See, I'm drunk. Getting reflective and personal and all that. Enough. I'm off with a walk with the dog.

by Nomad on Sun Jun 25th, 2006 at 06:19:19 PM EST
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I figured I can't deal with students, or with writing for publication, so why bother?

In the long run, we're all misquoted — not Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 25th, 2006 at 06:22:13 PM EST
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...before my comment is taking the wrong way, 't Hooft is truly a pleasant person (as far as I can tell) - he now uses his fame and time to educate younger kids on sciences, trying to make it more attractive, opening science exhibitions and chairing panels for teenagers. And in the meantime he continues to pursue some spectacular theories that read like science fiction to a layman (like me).

When I was 12, I had a vivid interest in astrophysics and theoretical physics - the attraction of people like Einstein and Hawking. So I'm still reading on it when I happen to come across it. But it's always filtered: mostly popular science articles.

by Nomad on Sun Jun 25th, 2006 at 06:11:41 PM EST
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Read some of Smolin's popular books. The Life of the Cosmos reads very well, and it's definitely hard sci-fi material. I'm eager to get my hands on The Problem with Physics which Laurent's quotation in the diary mentions.

In the long run, we're all misquoted — not Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sun Jun 25th, 2006 at 06:16:38 PM EST
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Unlike a lot of scientists, Smolin can write clearly, simply and elegantly. Definitely recommended.
by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sun Jun 25th, 2006 at 07:55:08 PM EST
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My curiosity stems from a Baez TWF, the specifics of which I don't now recall.

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by technopolitical on Mon Jun 26th, 2006 at 01:39:06 AM EST
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There isn't much I can add to that, then ;-)

In the long run, we're all misquoted — not Keynes
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 26th, 2006 at 02:21:49 AM EST
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