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Anyone have any idea how much the US govt and the neo -cons and -liberals are involved in this?  They do like to get in on regime change action and meddle like that.  I just would really be surprised if Sarkozy didn't have some backing and cultivation from this side of the pond.

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire
by p------- on Mon Jun 26th, 2006 at 01:35:34 PM EST
See the comment by redstar upthread about Alain Madelin, and then read his wikipedia profile. Just a hunch, but I think that's the connection you're looking for.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 26th, 2006 at 02:15:18 PM EST
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Actually, I do mean direct involvement, possibly monetary, on the part of people either in the US Administration or their lackeys at places like AEI, PNAC, Heritage Found., etc.  

Although Madelin does provide an obvious ideological link.

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

by p------- on Mon Jun 26th, 2006 at 02:23:12 PM EST
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Well, assuming you feel lucky about googling Alain Madelin you'll find a link to a place called cercles libéraux which, in its list of links is a hall of shame of neoliberal think tanks and fundations. We should probably research any links between the French organizations listed and the American ones you mention.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 26th, 2006 at 02:43:49 PM EST
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Wowzers!  This guy is a piece of work.

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire
by p------- on Mon Jun 26th, 2006 at 03:37:58 PM EST
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The best is where he talks about "opportunities to get to know the fabulous universe of think tanks".

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 26th, 2006 at 07:36:45 PM EST
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Madelin is, as you say, a "piece of work", but he's mostly a wannabe as far as the contacts with big bad neo-lib US outfits go. He's extremely stupid and doesn't have much of a positive image in France. In other words, as I say in a reply to redstar above, I don't think he's hugely dangerous (though I wouldn't be happy to see him offered a ministerial post).
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Tue Jun 27th, 2006 at 02:22:19 AM EST
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Excuse the garbled grammar.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 26th, 2006 at 03:59:49 PM EST
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This has been one of my questions, also. How are foreign factions, North America in particular, whose support for Sarkozy might be seen as implicit, going to weigh in on the elections.

From the Observer piece:

According to Le Monde journalist Philippe Ridet, 'La Firme Nicolas' is a crack team of thirtysomething workaholic men, with the latest mobile phones, Ralph Lauren suits and an image-building obsession that stops at nothing: 'It's a political style we have never seen in France before.'

I see this as being unprecedented, also. To me it suggests that politicians are taking a leaf from the book of Anglo-American political campaigns and careers. Political debate and inquiry are being shut out by content-poor media domination of what remain, for the moment, two purported candidates.

Both Sarkozy and Royal have abandoned true political debate in favor of bolstering high profile media personae, and are effectively being exempted from scrutiny and debate.

I'm confident that the population is too smart to be fooled by such vacuousness, but time is nigh to be asking pointed questions of these two.

by cigonia on Mon Jun 26th, 2006 at 03:26:21 PM EST
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'neigh', of course
by cigonia on Mon Jun 26th, 2006 at 03:47:15 PM EST
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Nigh was correct, neigh is what horses do.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 26th, 2006 at 04:03:52 PM EST
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I become confused between languages.

Glad to have correction, here

by cigonia on Mon Jun 26th, 2006 at 04:11:09 PM EST
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A Polish friend describes the new right-wing youth in similar terms. Smart in dress and mind and extremely dangerous. The left needs to up their game. We ain't seen nothing yet.

guaranteed to evoke a violent reaction from police is to challenge their right to "define the situation." --- David Graeber citing Marc Cooper
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Mon Jun 26th, 2006 at 04:02:51 PM EST
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