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Would be an interesting exercise (again) to see how the posted graph in employment rate would compare to the full-time equivalent amongst European nations.

This may sound doltish. But if in general it is compulsory to have education until 16-18 years old in the listed countries, why include part of the student population in the age range of 15-64? Why not sample more realistically and start at 18? Or should I stop picking at this and accept things because they are just the way they are...?

Even so, Denmark looks impressive this way. Assuming a 50:50 distribution between men and women, up to 80 percent of the men of total population appears employed...

by Nomad on Sat Jul 1st, 2006 at 07:37:52 AM EST
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Why this obsession with full-time employment? If increased productivity allows us to work 30 hours instead of 40, so much the better!

But the total activity rate in hours per week per person (or per active person) is an interesting statistic to look at.

It's just that, like GDP, this only measures the labour that is exchanged for money (I pay you to scratch my back), as opposed to the labout that is traded (mutual back-scratching) or altruistic work (you scratch my back because you're my friend).

So, hours worked per person per week does not really totally measure activity. It just measures taxable activity [to steal a.swedich.kind.of.death's theme].

Nothing is 'mere'. — Richard P. Feynman

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jul 1st, 2006 at 07:44:19 AM EST
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But others are... The now resigned Minister of Economic Affairs (Brinkhorst) recently called to reinstate the 40 hours work week for as many as possible. I'd like it even better to compare full employment vs employment rate vs labour productivty vs "taxable activity" for different nations. Or would all of that be nonsense?
by Nomad on Sat Jul 1st, 2006 at 07:54:55 AM EST
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I was not accusing you of being obsessd with it, just pointing out our general "cultural" obsession, as with GDP. Might make for a nice second round of Socratic Economics, but first I have to come up with the proper ironic question to ask.

Nothing is 'mere'. — Richard P. Feynman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jul 1st, 2006 at 08:04:17 AM EST
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Sorry, I phrased myself wrong. It was clear to me you were thinking out loud.

The first round of Socratic Economics (love the title) went widely over my head, but it sure was educative (for me at least). And it also unearthed Chris's post which is a brilliant starting point.

by Nomad on Sat Jul 1st, 2006 at 08:30:36 AM EST
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Chris' Post? Who's Chris?

I'm still trying to come up with an answer to rdf... He's a heavy hitter...

Nothing is 'mere'. — Richard P. Feynman

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jul 1st, 2006 at 08:43:46 AM EST
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Chris Kulczycki's "Let's Ban the GDP"

He hasn't been posting diaries for a while... Shame...

And unless rdf writes about fake food, I just watch with blinking eyes. Come to think of it, I don't think I even responded in those threads. Rats.

by Nomad on Sat Jul 1st, 2006 at 08:56:19 AM EST
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Oh, yeah, I thought it was him.

Nothing is 'mere'. — Richard P. Feynman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jul 1st, 2006 at 08:57:32 AM EST
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for people in full time jobs, including overtime:



In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes

by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Sat Jul 1st, 2006 at 08:02:20 AM EST
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You get the sense that the higher the employment rate, the lower the amount of working hours... Notable exception: Great Britain. Which I don't understand, since I experienced the Brits as very strict on having their lunch breaks and a pub after five. The Earth Sciences department was practically deserted after five.
by Nomad on Sat Jul 1st, 2006 at 08:37:30 AM EST
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You're talking academia...

In the real world, UK business leaders convinced the UK government to obtain an exemption from the 48h/wk limit in the relevant European Union directive.

Nothing is 'mere'. — Richard P. Feynman

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Sat Jul 1st, 2006 at 08:45:47 AM EST
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Regulation matters.
by Nomad on Sat Jul 1st, 2006 at 08:58:13 AM EST
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Even so, Denmark looks impressive this way. Assuming a 50:50 distribution between men and women, up to 80 percent of the men of total population appears employed...

Indeed.  

Experts: what accounts for Denmark's statistics? nb: I understand that employment policies are by no means "one-size-fits-all", but might there be valuable, adaptable lessons to be learned from the Danes?
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by cigonia on Sat Jul 1st, 2006 at 01:12:45 PM EST
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