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Tens of thousands of terrified Tories fled the US at the end of the Revolutionary war, and those were the lucky ones.

The purpose of a State is to organize violence. States are created by successful demonstration of their ability to organize violence. As soon as the State is established, we call its violence "war" and "law enforcement" instead of "terror" and "insurrection".

Do you know what happened in France after WWII? Do you compare the exercise of terror in Palestine 1948 to that in Algeria in the 1950s?

The sad fact is that the dream of the Zionists was a state like any other and they got one, bloody hands and all.

by citizen k (sansracine yahoo.fr) on Sun Jul 23rd, 2006 at 07:33:39 PM EST
If you genuinely think none of this matters, I shan't try to persuade you. However, changing the subject:

Do you know what happened in France after WWII? Do you compare the exercise of terror in Palestine 1948 to that in Algeria in the 1950s?

...isn't exceeedingly interesting either. The respective answers are 'yes' and 'no, it's you who are bringing that up'.

The world's northernmost desert wind.

by Sirocco (sirocco2005ATgmail.com) on Sun Jul 23rd, 2006 at 07:55:54 PM EST
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It's interesting on a historical level, but I don't understand what follows from these sort of observations. Perhaps I'm just too cynical, but is it surprising that Israel was founded in a welter of violent deeds, that its leaders have double standards about violence, that "officials" and partisans of all sides are liars?

How do you think that the British soldiers killed at the King David Hotel got to be in Palestine? The were not invited in peacefully by the Turks who were also there under the same color of law.

by citizen k (sansracine yahoo.fr) on Sun Jul 23rd, 2006 at 08:10:23 PM EST
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is it surprising that Israel was founded in a welter of violent deeds, that its leaders have double standards about violence, that "officials" and partisans of all sides are liars?

Not to you, obviously. To a majority in the US and big minorities in Europe, for whom Israel is and has always been a beacon of civilization beleagered by barbarians, the answer would be yes.

The world's northernmost desert wind.

by Sirocco (sirocco2005ATgmail.com) on Sun Jul 23rd, 2006 at 08:23:31 PM EST
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How do you think that the British soldiers killed at the King David Hotel got to be in Palestine?

WHat about the majority of those killed in the King David Hotel, who were neither soldiers nor British?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Jul 24th, 2006 at 03:55:43 AM EST
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