Israel is a very particular case in the post colonial world. It is a European transplant that would not be able to survive if it were left entirely to its own devices. Its existence depends on the support of the US. After almost 60 years of unresolved conflict it is inconceivable that they are going to coexist in peaceful cooperation with their neighbors. It is a problem with no reasonable solution.
If complaining about atrocities now are negated by our ancestors atrocities noone has any clean hands. So I guess we should leave it at that, and content that noone should trown the first stone just wait for the eavenly kingdom to manifest here on earth?
Or we chose not to believe in that crap and start working from where we are, that is right here and right now, and try to stop (weak as such attempts might be) atrocities in the order they occur, from now on. A vote for PES is a vote for EPP! A vote for EPP is a vote for PES! Support the coalition, vote EPP-PES in 2009!
I would desperately like to see some way forward that would save Palestinians and Lebanese from this nightmare. I don't believe that sanctimonious lectures that ignore the ugly realities of how power works in this planet will get them there.
I don't believe that sanctimonious lectures that ignore the ugly realities of how power works in this planet will get them there.
Not impossible that I may have posted something that fits that description at some point or other. But this post isn't it. The world's northernmost desert wind.
a) that Israel is a uniquely lawless state b) that Israel is a racist European imposition on a previously peaceful Eden c) that Israel takes advantage of the guilt-ridden nature of the tender-hearted Europeans d) that c) (or Israel, or both) depend(s) on the Jews' conspiratorial control of the USA
I'm not sure what--or who--you are objecting to in this post or its comments. Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
There have been rulings by international courts that have no jurisdiction over Israel, and that Israel wasn't even represented at because of this lack of juridiction. That is not international law either.
Resolutions 242 and 338 require Israeli withdrawl AFTER a negotiated settlement of SOME of the land. There was no territorial despute with Lebanon, Egypt and Jordan GOT their land back, and the Palestinians and Syria didn't negotiate in good faith.
Tunisia, for example is an Arab country.
"True" Jewish Arabs, i.e., Yeminis, Iraqis and the like (we can also ad Iran, which is not actually "Arab" in the linguistic sense, but surely is in the cultural one.) were kicked out of their home countries and went to Israel, and in fact there were more of them than Palestinians period back in 1950.
The Sephardim and Mizrahim hate the arabs more than the Askenazis, because of what the Arabs did to THEM personally.