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Dodo, thanks for putting this together.

Can I say that I was hoping you were going to publish two diarys: one called The Israeli Campaign (very well put together above) and another called The Hezbollah Campaign (or somesuch)?

You see, I can imagine any supporter of the israeli action would read the above and go pshh, propaganda.  What about the rockets they're firing at us, I mean them, I mean...?

They are on their heels, rocking.  They have no arguments, they have to listen...so who is saying what on the other side?

(To give you an idea of what I mean: the conformist western attitude I come across thinks something like, "They hate the jews, want to kill all westerners, and believe in covering women in black, making us pray to Allah, etc..."  This needs counteracting by voices from...the other side.)

I'm sorry if I'm not making much sense.

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.

by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Wed Jul 26th, 2006 at 08:01:23 PM EST
By "the other side" I mean the side that does NOT have Israel on it.

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Wed Jul 26th, 2006 at 08:02:52 PM EST
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Well, the short version would be, they believe in the deterrence of terror bombing, treating the other state as a whole too, and that doesn't work either.

I may pull together some quotes later, for now some bullet points:

  • one Nasrallah speech talked both about effecting evacuation on the other side, and fear everywhere when longer-range rockets are available;

  • Nasrallah gave a half-assed apology to a family of Palestinian Israelis for killing their children -- I wonder how long before the terror strategy will start damaging the home audience not just the Western one;

  • on Janus-faced Hezbollah's strange role in Lebanon (which is less known than its role in the conflict with Israel), Helen Cobban's article is a must-read.


*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Jul 27th, 2006 at 05:16:33 AM EST
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I've just finished reading Helen Cobban's article.  Very detailed, very in-depth.  Thanks for the link, DoDo.

Don't fight forces, use them R. Buckminster Fuller.
by rg (leopold dot lepster at google mail dot com) on Thu Jul 27th, 2006 at 06:20:17 PM EST
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