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The words of a Canadian United Nations observer written just days before he was killed in an Israeli bombing of a UN post in Lebanon are evidence Hezbollah was using the post as a "shield" to fire rockets into Israel, says a former UN commander in Bosnia.


Just last week, Maj. Hess-von Kruedener wrote an e-mail about his experiences after nine months in the area, words Maj.-Gen. MacKenzie said are an obvious allusion to Hezbollah tactics.

"What I can tell you is this," he wrote in an e-mail to CTV dated July 18. "We have on a daily basis had numerous occasions where our position has come under direct or indirect fire from both (Israeli) artillery and aerial bombing.

"The closest artillery has landed within 2 meters (sic) of our position and the closest 1000 lb aerial bomb has landed 100 meters (sic) from our patrol base. This has not been deliberate targeting, but rather due to tactical necessity."



Mikhail from SF
by Tsarrio (dj_tsar@yahoo.com) on Sun Jul 30th, 2006 at 01:15:33 PM EST
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If the Hezbollah uses a UN post to fire rockets into Israel, then Israel must destroy that UN post.

If the Hezbollah uses a primary school to fire rockets into Israel, then Israel must level the school (sorry kids).

If the Hezbollah is firing rockets at other parts of Israel from Tel Aviv, then Israel must destroy Tel Aviv.

Hey come to think of it, military tactics are actually quite simmple, I'd make a great officer!

by Alex in Toulouse on Sun Jul 30th, 2006 at 01:47:15 PM EST
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Well no, another solution is for Israel to continue appealing to the international community. The same international community that passed Resolution 1559 and has done absolutely nothing to make it come to life. Or maybe Israel could just let the rockets just keep raining down until Hizbollah runs out...you know, seeing that they can't really retaliate.

Mikhail from SF
by Tsarrio (dj_tsar@yahoo.com) on Sun Jul 30th, 2006 at 08:23:19 PM EST
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Do you want me to list the UN Resolutions ignored by Israel?...

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 05:45:20 AM EST
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I want you to read this little piece and tell me what you think

First of all, I think you try to explain the particular with the general, e.g. claim that Qana massacres I and II must have been due to Hezbollah firing next to them because there are cases of Hezbollah firing next to UN or civilian positions. Even though at least in the first case, evidence clearly contradicts Israeli claims.

Second, the article later continues:

A senior UN official, asked about the information contained in Maj. Hess-von Kruedener's e-mail concerning Hezbollah presence in the vicinity of the Khiam base, denied the world body had been caught in a contradiction.

"At the time, there had been no Hezbollah activity reported in the area," he said. "So it was quite clear they were not going after other targets; that, for whatever reason, our position was being fired upon.

"Whether or not they thought they were going after something else, we don't know. The fact was, we told them where we were. They knew where we were. The position was clearly marked, and they pounded the hell out of us."

As a reminder, the email is from a week before the murder by the IDF.

Third, in the article one retired Maj.-Gen. Lewis McKenzie goes further in interpretations, which seem far-fetched given what's said in point (4) of the full email, and which seem more explained by the retired general's biases. (Also read what Hess-von Kruedener's wife thinks.)

Finally, this whole argument stinks, it is a non-sequitur, for reasons Alex pointed at and you try to dismiss as 'simplistic'.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Mon Jul 31st, 2006 at 05:40:32 AM EST
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