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The West Lothian Question. Breakup of UK ? | 39 comments (39 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

It's interesting that this seems to be happening across the entire EU, as large nation states start facing pressures to split into smaller ethnic groupings. (Or in the case of Cornwall and the West Country, smaller fictional groupings.)

What would an EU be like with - say - France and Germany as the only big nation states, and the rest a patchwork of local affiliations?

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Wed Jul 5th, 2006 at 09:40:45 AM EST

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Germany is already a collection of smaller states, isn't it?

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Wed Jul 5th, 2006 at 09:43:10 AM EST
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Indeed - That is making the assumption that neither Germany or France would disaggregate with the evolution of the European Union.

Money is a sign of Poverty - Culture Saying

by RogueTrooper on Wed Jul 5th, 2006 at 10:45:52 AM EST
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Hey, guys, stop channeling José María Aznar. Devolution is not disaggregation, unless Cameron is in charge of it.

Nothing is 'mere'. — Richard P. Feynman

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Wed Jul 5th, 2006 at 10:57:49 AM EST
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devolucao, in portuguese, means reimbursement. It pretty much sums it up how I feel about it: that's not a way to deal with relationships between people.

Rien n'est gratuit en ce bas monde. Tout s'expie, le bien comme le mal, se paie tot ou tard. Le bien c'est beaucoup plus cher, forcement. Celine

by UnEstranAvecVueSurMer (holopherne ahem gmail) on Thu Jul 6th, 2006 at 05:04:08 AM EST
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devolver means to return in Spanish. It can be a tax return, but it can also mean to return the power [closer to] the people.

Nothing is 'mere'. — Richard P. Feynman

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 6th, 2006 at 05:14:19 AM EST
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I went to the Corto ingles, which you must know, yesterday, where I saw that word. I had just read this diary, which is why it struck me. I can't really say all the way you can use this word.

It's funny how parliamentarism has lost its glory. Who could have predicted that a conservative would defend ideas that imply, somehow, that the people decide better?

Rien n'est gratuit en ce bas monde. Tout s'expie, le bien comme le mal, se paie tot ou tard. Le bien c'est beaucoup plus cher, forcement. Celine

by UnEstranAvecVueSurMer (holopherne ahem gmail) on Thu Jul 6th, 2006 at 05:23:02 AM EST
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Just look at the PP in Spain [not only now but in 1993-6]. When the conservatives are desperate to get back into power they stop at nothing, not even putting the state itself at risk.

Nothing is 'mere'. — Richard P. Feynman

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Jul 6th, 2006 at 05:31:14 AM EST
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The State and its political system. The old justifications for parliamentarism (concertation, debate, open-mindedness, desire to be convinced) seems to hold no more value in the politicians' mind than in the people's. And yet these are the values the EU is building itself on.

Rien n'est gratuit en ce bas monde. Tout s'expie, le bien comme le mal, se paie tot ou tard. Le bien c'est beaucoup plus cher, forcement. Celine

by UnEstranAvecVueSurMer (holopherne ahem gmail) on Thu Jul 6th, 2006 at 05:41:48 AM EST
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