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Housing "crashes" are rarely much more than 10-20% in the frothy California/New York type markets.  It's hard to get real estate to crash (or spike) in places where the cost is still $100K and population growth is nil.  A 20% retracement when prices have gone up 100% in 6-7 years is not that much.  Hard on zero capital buyers, but most of us who werent' selling anyway don't much care.

We're seeing a major league slowdown out in state #50.  Sales are down 50%.  Prices are being marked down from obscene to merely ridiculous.  People were asking $750K for old POS that would have sold for more like $300K in 2000.  Now that a 30 yr fixed is up to 6.5-7% range, the bloom is coming off the rose.  Realtors aren't whining yet, but looking a little concerned.  Wouldn't take much to send us into a 20% retracement -- tourism recession, another 1% on mortgages etc.

There are signs everywhere.  It's unreal.  So far real estate for sales are outnumbering political signs about 10:1.  That will change as we are down to 70 days to the primary (which is the real election in many races).

by HiD on Sat Jul 8th, 2006 at 04:51:14 AM EST
Housing "crashes" are rarely much more than 10-20% in the frothy California/New York type markets.
I had the personal experience of buying a somewhat upscale condo in southern California in 1990, when the housing slump was already 1 1/2 years along,,,,,and finding when I wanted to sell in '93 that prices were down an additional 30%.  And I've been in California now for 17 years,,,,and the market seems to me to be very volatile, both up and down.  So I guess my personal experience has been different than yours--I don't have any published statistics on California to support either of us.
by wchurchill on Sun Jul 9th, 2006 at 03:06:39 AM EST
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I had one in Norcal the same time.  

Bought in 87 for $290K, identical sold for $415 in 89,
By 95 prob back to $320ish.  Luckily we didn't need to sell until 99 for roughly $490K.  Sold again last year for mid $900s.

Yes CA is ugly volatile, but mostly to the upside.  That 90-93 puke out was the worst I've ever seen in this country.  UK in early 90's (London area) was equally ugly if not worse.  It's just pretty unusual for the haircut to be more than 20% in my experience.  

Condos are worse than single family houses to the downside as you are now well aware.  

by HiD on Sun Jul 9th, 2006 at 06:56:43 AM EST
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Watching HGTV makes me wonder if any condo exists in SoCal that is not upscale, at least in price.  You can't buy a closet in LA for less than half a million these days.

Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. - George Carlin
by Drew J Jones (myfriends@thisispancakes.com) on Sun Jul 9th, 2006 at 08:25:05 PM EST
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