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No-one seems to be commenting, so even though I can't seem to force my thoughts into coherent order I'll get the ball rolling.

I'm wary of this statement:

This is a prime example of why I am increasingly inclined to think that the process of globalization is not fundamentally controllable.

It seems to be used a lot by a whole variety of people for different purposes.

A lot depends what you mean by "fundamentally controllable." For example, I'd probably agree that there are technological factors pushing globalisation forward and that there is no practical ability to make those technologies disappear. At the same time, flows of money and trade are vulnerable to regulation so that is a potential accelerator/brake.

Likewise, whilst the process of globalisation may be difficult to get a handle on, it seems to me that there is every possibility we can cushion the effects on people in lots of ways. Just because in the long run we have to go in a direction doesn't mean we have to go there by jumping off a cliff. Perhaps we can build a more gently sloping roadway.

by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Fri Aug 4th, 2006 at 11:08:06 AM EST
Every discussion of globilisation needs to define the sense the word is being used in.

There are at least two phenomena - the technological and the economic. The first is hard to stop, the second is the result of conscious choices.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Fri Aug 4th, 2006 at 11:16:14 AM EST
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I see globalization as an interaction of technology, economics AND politics.
by Richard Lyon (rllyon@gmail.com) on Fri Aug 4th, 2006 at 11:52:37 AM EST
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There was economics, politics and technology before globalization. Can you be a bit more specific?

Nothing is 'mere'. — Richard P. Feynman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Aug 4th, 2006 at 11:54:08 AM EST
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I don't really think that globalization is new. It's just the word that has recently caught on. You could say that globalization started the first time a tribe ventured over the hill into the next valley. The Roman Empire used technology, economics and politics to move people and commodities over large areas.

Certainly there is a fairly uninterrupted process from the development of long distance sailing ships in the 15th C until now. The Chinese had the jump on that 100 years before with their treasure fleet and backed off. They are only now beginning to catch up.

by Richard Lyon (rllyon@gmail.com) on Fri Aug 4th, 2006 at 12:02:09 PM EST
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I will readily agree that it is the sort of sweeping statement that can't be prooven right or wrong in any empirical sense. As I mentioned in the essay, there are certainly aspects of the things we lump under the rubric of globalization that can be controlled, specifically imports and exports of tangible goods. For all the neoliberal rhetoric of free trade, those are in fact being controlled for the benefit of specific interests. There certainly possible options for changing the ways those things are controlled.

 There is really nothing particularly new about this. Air transportation has increased the range and speed of international trade, but so did the steamship. However, it seems to be that telecommunications technology may be the new genie out of the bottle. The invention of the telegraph had an important on 19th C society and can be seen as a precursor of today's events, but it didn't really move jobs.

by Richard Lyon (rllyon@gmail.com) on Fri Aug 4th, 2006 at 11:24:42 AM EST
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For examples of technology moving jobs in earlier times, I guess the best place to look is the Industrial Revolution. The resource requirements of coal, iron ore, oil and other minerals created communities in all sorts of unlikely places. And then destroyed some of them when the mine got economic...
by Metatone (metatone [a|t] gmail (dot) com) on Fri Aug 4th, 2006 at 11:49:08 AM EST
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The difference with manufacturing is that generally people have to move to the jobs. A similar pattern is happening with the industrial revolution in China with similar environmental consequences. Telecommunications and services make it possible to actually move the jobs to where the people already are.
by Richard Lyon (rllyon@gmail.com) on Fri Aug 4th, 2006 at 11:55:44 AM EST
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