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Well, first off, the antiwar protesters were not promoting the use of violence...

True, but for me, the search for peace is an ideology, so if you reserve ideology for violence, you have to find another word :).

by Laurent GUERBY on Sat Aug 5th, 2006 at 02:10:35 AM EST
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Pacifism might be an ideology, because it's still a power struggle between those who believe in violence and those who don't. Pacifism could never be forced on arms dealers without recourse to law, threats of prison and other state-sanctioned violence. Pacifism would be a uniquely paradoxical case, but unless someone can persuade the military complex to give up war and weapons development with a stern talking to over a cup of tea and a sandwich, some kind of enforcement would be necessary.

Marching for peace wouldn't be an ideology. As Migeru said, there could be all kinds of reasons for going on a march.

And Martin Kramer - a prominent neo-con with a jihadist mentality probably isn't be the best way to debunk Pape.

I like Pape's take on things. I don't know if he's right or not, but his ideas make much more sense to me than neocon jihadist clash-of-civilisation fantasies do.

by ThatBritGuy (thatbritguy (at) googlemail.com) on Sat Aug 5th, 2006 at 06:20:24 AM EST
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For the record, that's why I don't like your ideoly = violence definition.
by Laurent GUERBY on Sun Aug 6th, 2006 at 12:24:40 PM EST
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