One of the reasons for the "hive" and "whatever" alternatives is that I and others here don't think all groups that have empleyed or employ terrorist tactics need to be "defeated." (See the IRA example Colman brought.)

were more about long-term measures, i.e. reducing the motivations of terrorism etc.

I responded to that, too. But this brings us on one hand chiefly to current US and Israeli policies (and EU relationship to the latter) which you didn't want to hear about, on the other hand to allowing Islamic parties to be elected democratically, which you don't seem to be in favour of. (A lesser part of the first is also European immigration/integration policy which I mentioned earlier.)

_{*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.}