Yup. But the commenters here are not talking about a short term tactical shift in European foreign that will then revert back to Atlanticism when US policy goes back to a sanity, but rather a long term strategic reorientation.
The moral argument is a horrified aside.
That's not the way I read the comments on this thread and many others. From what I can tell the moral argument is an integral part of what I see as a call to something akin to US containment policy during the Cold War - though of course conveniently eliding the moral compromises such a policy would require if it were to be anything more than EU isolationism.
But the commenters here are not talking about a short term tactical shift in European foreign that will then revert back to Atlanticism when US policy goes back to a sanity, but rather a long term strategic reorientation.
Will do.
So many folks constantly complain about the US rather than outlining what an independent European policy would look like.
Such a European policy independent from the US would be great and much better than staying on the sidelines and complain about US policy 24/7.
Why hasn't the EU progressed any furhter with such European Foreign Policy?
It has been declared a goal for ages, but the EU countries can't get their act together.
Even the mission in Lebanon isn't an EU organized mission. Solana wasn't even coordinating it very much. The EU member states did not let him.
Remember who opposed an EU call for an immediate ceasefire? The UK, Germany, Czechia and Netherlands according to press reports.
The fact is, Atlanticism is a major axis of opinion [in the sense of the dimensions of the Political Compass: I lack a name for the opposite direction to Atlanticism] in the EU. There doesn't seem to be any likelihood of a consensus on that dimension for the foreseeable future. Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. — Euripides
Less NATO, more UN, a multipolar world. Feel free to make a realpolitik argument for why it can't work. Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. — Euripides
I mean, before Europe has the leeway to tactically shift its position with respect to the US, a strategic reorientation needs to take place. Right now, US strategy seems to define the boundaries of Europe's tactics. Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. — Euripides
That's a rather limited account of what some of us advocate. For example, have you read this reply to wchurchill? *Lunatic*, n. One whose delusions are out of fashion.
