Display:
Fischer's framing, "Don't feed the beast" makes me hugely uncomfortable because it is disturbingly close to the neocon battlecry of "Starve the beast", the goal of "shrink[ing] government to a size where we can drown it in a bathtub" (Grover Norquist). I am surprised that Fischer overlooked, or chose to overlook, this association in his first lecture at a US university. But perhaps I am being overly sensitive.  

As to the "war on terror", or the "war on fanaticism", or however we wish to term it (I'll just call it "the gwot"), the problem is not merely the name, but (as others have noted before) the fact that the concept is so vague as to be meaningless (or alternatively, so capable of being arbitrarily applied). This fact has multiple implications; unfortunately, none of them have any relevance to reducing the frequency of fanaticism-motivated attacks.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Thu Sep 14th, 2006 at 07:28:44 AM EST
I thought "Don't fed the beast" was amusingly like "don't feed the troll".

It's interesting what associations different people have to figures of speech.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. — Euripides

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 14th, 2006 at 07:30:40 AM EST
[ Parent ]
There is no war. It's pure nonsense that should be challenged at every turn. There is no enemy to fight a war against. "Terror" isn't an enemy, neither is terrorism, nor fanaticism. The assorted terrorists are a nuisance, not an existential threat.

There was a war in Iraq. There was a war in Afghanistan. Now there are occupations, insurgencies and civil wars in both places.

by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 14th, 2006 at 07:32:56 AM EST
[ Parent ]
What do you mean? We've always been at war with Eastasia.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. — Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 14th, 2006 at 07:38:51 AM EST
[ Parent ]
PLEASE don't just read one sentence, but follow the sources that I gave to understand what Fischer means.
by Joerg in Berlin ((joerg.wolf [AT] atlanticreview.org)) on Thu Sep 14th, 2006 at 02:35:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]
Sorry, but I read the Tagesspiegel piece BEFORE posting. I was initially curious to see whether this was an artifect of translation, and found it was a direct quote.

I think perhaps you did yourself a disservice by citing the Tagesspiegel article, because it is (IMO) little more than a puff piece about Fischer, with no serious analysis and few actual facts (except perhaps the "rolling of the eyes" in the first sentence).

Specifically, it does not explain what Fischer means by "Don't feed the beast"; this is merely the closing tagline. This vacuum certainly facilitated my association.

More generally, we are all judged by the quality of our metaphors, and people like Fischer moreso. The scorn that W received for talking about a "crusade" was entirely justified. I personally would have hoped that Fischer would have been savvy enough to avoid this kind of pitfall.

The fact is that what we're experiencing right now is a top-down disaster. -Paul Krugman

by dvx (dvx.clt ät gmail dotcom) on Fri Sep 15th, 2006 at 04:44:49 AM EST
[ Parent ]
Another metaphor that has been floated in relation to terrorism is "to fight malaria it is not enough to kill mosquitos, you have to drain the swamp".

Metaphors are not neutral and I fault Fischer for painting the problem as a "beast".

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. — Euripides

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Sep 15th, 2006 at 05:10:05 AM EST
[ Parent ]
I think he only used the word "beast" so that he could play with the words "defeat" and "feed"

He would probably agree with your mosquito-swarm metaphor.

Both you could read his piece in the NYT, linked to in the diary to see clarify his position.

by Joerg in Berlin ((joerg.wolf [AT] atlanticreview.org)) on Fri Sep 15th, 2006 at 09:13:48 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Display:
Login
. Make a new account
. Reset password
Occasional Series