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The whole idea that neither Islam, the fucked up regimes in the Middle East, or the long history of European meddling there have anything to do with the current situation, that it rests in hands of one man alone, Geroge Bush, is pretty fairy tale to tell yourself so you can sleep at night

True, but that is also a strawman.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Sep 14th, 2006 at 08:55:10 AM EST
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I'd like to expound on one thing here: the long history of European meddling.

US meddling came into the discussion for two reasons: (a) current, active meddling: you can't make any policy ignoring it; (b) historical meddling in the context of Joschka Fischer's claims about 9/11 and al-Qaida. The long history of European meddling is not directly relevant in these contexts. On the other hand, I could add that French and British (and also Italian and Spanish) colonialism wasn't the best advertisement for Western modernism in the Middle East, nor was Soviet Cold War clientism serving the promotion of democracy. Then again, the West European colonial influence was over before all the Arab modernists among both the political leaders and the opinion leaders were out. What followed was some meddling as US vassals (arming Iraq) and reckless and/or corrupt business deals (German chemical weapons factory for Lybia), which at least developed into sizeable scandals at home.

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.

by DoDo on Thu Sep 14th, 2006 at 10:17:59 AM EST
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It would be a strawman only if poemless was claiming that Bush wasn't part of the problem.

you are the media you consume.

by MillMan (millguy at gmail) on Thu Sep 14th, 2006 at 12:31:42 PM EST
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