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'Vlaams Blok' is now 'Vlaams Belang'(Flemish Interest)
It is a wealthy party because of the Belgian system of political party financing. This system is related to the number of votes you get in the national elections.
'Vlaams Belang' is not a party of wealthy people. Their big man, almost all of them started in their youth as ultra-right-wing streetfighters.
Their most known slogan is "Eigen volk eerst" (own people first): they are plain xenophobic.
On 8 oct. there are muncipal elections in Belgium and this is the big question: will this fascistoid party still grow? By tomorrow I'll have a diary about it.

The struggle of man against tyranny is the struggle of memory against forgetting.(Kundera)
by Elco B (elcob at scarlet dot be) on Thu Sep 21st, 2006 at 04:25:58 AM EST
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I was under the impression that the fact [maybe not such] that Flanders is wealthier than Wallonia is one of the driving forces of the Flemish independence movement.

A party whose platform prominently includes separation from Belgium and closer ties with the Netherlands is not plain xenophobic, it's separatist. Which was my point: if the party's base feel alienated enough to want to separate and you put a cordon around them, you only increase the determination of the base, and the power of conviction of their separatist rationale to sway moderates in their direction.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. — Euripides

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 21st, 2006 at 04:35:15 AM EST
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Yes indeed, they are separatist. But this is not the issue they get votes for. The party became big on a plain xenophobic and racist agenda.
Flanders has other natonalist party's, and the demand for more own power lives in all Flemish political formations
Belgium is a federal state, it took 40 years to build what we have now. There is a Flemish government, and a Walloon, and a Brussels.
Every region has autonomy in many area's and this will expand in the future as every politcal party in Belgium has demands in that area.
The cordon:  this excludes 'Vlaams Belang' from executive polital power. This works on every level, regional and local. This means 80% of the voters support partys that refuses to cooperate with the 'Vlaams Belang'
This cordon was agreed because of the xenophoob and racist agenda of the 'Vl.B'. Separatisme has nothing to do with it.
As for closer ties with The Netherlands: nobody there even want to talk with the 'Vl.B' Here in Flanders this is not an issue at all, even not for the 'Vl.B)

The struggle of man against tyranny is the struggle of memory against forgetting.(Kundera)
by Elco B (elcob at scarlet dot be) on Thu Sep 21st, 2006 at 05:12:15 AM EST
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This cordon was agreed because of the xenophoob and racist agenda of the 'Vl.B'. Separatisme has nothing to do with it.

That is exactly what I'm saying.

I am also saying that if the cordon fails to weaken the party, it might be because it's not only a xenophobic party.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. — Euripides

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 21st, 2006 at 05:15:16 AM EST
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Yes! Write, it will be interesting. If more and more parties in Flanders cover some of the seperatist territory that Vlaams Belang does, perhaps they will lose some support.

('Eigen Volk Eerst' was also a CD slogan IIRC. That and 'Vol=Vol')

by nanne (zwaerdenmaecker@gmail.com) on Thu Sep 21st, 2006 at 05:47:32 AM EST
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Maybe a diary on the Flemish political spectrum (sort of like this one) would be instructive and help me clear my misunderstandings. Specifically, I was under the impression that the Vlaams Belang and its predecessor the Vlaams Block did not invent separatism in Flanders and are rather an extreme outgrowth of mainstream nationalism which has existed for decades.

Those whom the Gods wish to destroy They first make mad. — Euripides
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 21st, 2006 at 05:59:17 AM EST
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ok,  working on it.

The struggle of man against tyranny is the struggle of memory against forgetting.(Kundera)
by Elco B (elcob at scarlet dot be) on Thu Sep 21st, 2006 at 06:51:50 AM EST
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