It pains me to say this, but I find the total input of the ET founding fathers in this discussion dissapointingly lacking. I understand that most of the ET resources were solely dedicated to the Energy Green Paper the past few days - prioritising subjects is perfectly fine. However, I am left with the impression that many here are more interested right now by sitting on the fence and watch where these meta-discussions will end up. Intended or not, it doesn't work for me to generate input.
As long as the ET gnomes don't profess their preferance what directions ET should head for and what directions should be avoided, I find it hard to spend my energy on the subject and bring in my own thoughts. Whether my input is relevant or not, is really inconsequential at this point. But I've been reluctant to join in because I've not the slightest notion whether my input even could be relevant - and in that case I can spent my energy better. The bottom-line: I think this subject desperately needs some steerage. ET is practically a free rein community, but it does have a rank of higher brass.
Why does this subject keeps on so high on the Recommended list but it draws in so little of the bigger contributors here? It baffles me.
It's a strange and I'm afraid not all that pleasant remark, though I'm sure you didn't mean it to be unpleasant. I haven't been active in those discussions because I've been doing other stuff. The "other stuff" already defines for me part of what I want ET to do. I'm not talking about it, I'm trying to do it.
If the front-pagers were all to have got into those discussions and steered them, don't you think there'd have been folks to say the discussion was being steered? Don't think I mean by this that there has been any discussion between the front-pagers, there hasn't to my knowledge.
As I said in the latest thread, I think we should take our time over this to be sure we get the right structure. So let's take our time and not get worked up -- and thanks, don't talk about people sitting on the fence who are actually hard at work.
Sorry already for this, Nomad, but you pissed me off a bit there. When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
It would keep it evident longer You can't be me, I'm taken
On language: I do feel that my choice of the word "steerage" was poor. Perhaps "guidance" would do it more justice. I hope you will consider that my choice in English is not impeccable - it isn't even in Dutch.
Also sitting at the fence most certainly wasn't a jab that people here are bumming - I don't mean offence by that remark. I do rebel against the notion to be cautious in these discussions and let time take its own course. Bold and audacious has taken me more often much further. State the goal, set a course.
Guidance or steerage, I wasn't picking at your choice of words, the result would have been the same. Extensive front-pager presence in those discussions would have triggered (from somewhere, I'm not thinking of anyone in particular) the suggestion that debate was being stifled or manipulated.
I think we disagree about your ideas of boldness etc. I can see little advantage to jumping into a structure we then spend a lot of time discussing because it isn't quite what was needed. When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
The main thing was that your remarks contained a thinly-veiled suspicion (or beginning of suspicion) that there was a plot in the upper spheres, that we were all toeing the line, or I don't know what
Nomad the McCarthyist. ;) Where's your motherf*%&ing flag pin?
At least I've at least half of the gnomes rattling their keyboards at me, so that's worth something....
I'm also overwhelmed with work (a) I have to do and (b) professional work I really want to do.
Stir in a feeling an American setting a direction for a European-centric blog is more than a mite cheeky ... A doo run-run-run, a doo run-run
Bah, you can't expect them to let you join the inner sanctum so soon. Besides there will be rituals and chants involved, you know.
Whose standards are slipping is what I want to know. When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
I'm approaching a point now where I will have things to say on the topic. But right now I'm going to watch the The Life of Brian.
"Let's go to stonin' "
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"Blessed are the cheesemakers."
Recommendation: The Thin Red Line - Terence Mallick's great anti-war flick... You can't be me, I'm taken
Enjoy the Pythons.
Note: Irish miles are different from Swedish miles. An Irish mile is the distance to the nearest boozer. ;-) You can't be me, I'm taken
He always gets the good DVDs. When locusts move on, they leave nothing behind
There are really two almost completely unrelated issues to sort out - one of which is hosting, the other of which is legal/financial/ethical/managerial.
Personally I'd suggest setting up more sensible hosting as a first step and worrying about the legals and financials later.
My concern about the rest of it is that it's highly meta, and could easily keep everyone entertained without a conclusion for an impressive period of time. 'But what if we're sued/raided/bombed/hacked/taken off to Gitmo?' isn't really much of a serious concern at this point - we're not big enough to bother with.
A first approximation to a year of better hosting is a simple problem to solve now, and shouldn't have to rely on any of the above.
