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Remaining queries concern:

  • whether to do (appended or not) a full take-down of the questionnaire;

  • whether to add a paragraph pointing out that alternative policy options are largely excluded from the questionnaire;

  • pointing out that translation work on the questionnaire seems poor (with possibly appended examples);

  • what to think of "minimum standards" on what kind of org can participate as an org in consultations.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 12:22:30 PM EST
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* whether to do (appended or not) a full take-down of the questionnaire;
No, we have better things to do with our time.
whether to add a paragraph pointing out that alternative policy options are largely excluded from the questionnaire;
Yup.
pointing out that translation work on the questionnaire seems poor (with possibly appended examples);
Yup.
what to think of "minimum standards" on what kind of org can participate as an org in consultations.
Not exactly sure what you meant here?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 12:26:02 PM EST
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There's an update at the foot of the diary.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 12:30:10 PM EST
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I think the relevant paragraph comes under "other measures" for the minimum standards thing.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 12:32:09 PM EST
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Agreed.

  • no detailed deconstruction
  • yes to one paragraph on excluded options (maybe replacing the current one on the question) using some of the materail I provided above
  • yes t a sentence on the translation work, with appended examples)
  • yes to a paragraph on orgs - after the description of ET, to wish that we be included as an org.


In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 12:50:18 PM EST
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No to paragraph on orgs. Side issue that's not relevant to this letter. We just assume that we're an organisation rather than an individual.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 12:54:52 PM EST
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It is relevant if we send it in the name of European Tribune.

If we send multiple copies as individuals, that's different.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 12:59:00 PM EST
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We assume we are an org, but explain who we are.

In the long run, we're all dead. John Maynard Keynes
by Jerome a Paris (etg@eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 01:04:40 PM EST
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Precisely.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 01:05:06 PM EST
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Presumably as in
The European Tribune is an online forum for civic debate, with a strong focus on European issues.
Otherwise, who are we?

Nothing is 'mere'. — Richard P. Feynman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 01:09:42 PM EST
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Then we append what they call a "special information sheet"?

That's one possibility (we may need one of those anyway), but probably the best thing here is multiple copies or, better, multiple signing by individuals from as many countries as possible. With reference to European Tribune, certainly. (Contributor, contributing editor, etc).

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 01:15:22 PM EST
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from as many countries as possible

May need to list both nationality and residence.

Nothing is 'mere'. — Richard P. Feynman

by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 01:16:28 PM EST
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Necessary and useful, because we can provide a range of nationalities and countries of residence in the EU. Makes for representativity.
by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 01:42:06 PM EST
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In fact, the use of an image isn't necessary in this letter, and if my reading of the option is mistaken, we can pull that.

"Wish" to be included as an org? We ask to be considered as an org?

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 12:55:44 PM EST
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We just assume we will be considered as an organisation?
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 12:57:08 PM EST
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We were considered as an organisation by the DG Transport, so we have a precedent that not worrying about it is the right thing to do...

Nothing is 'mere'. — Richard P. Feynman
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 12:58:16 PM EST
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This is a substantial complaint we're making (unlike Biofuels) and we're sending it to the top.

I wouldn't like to get a response from Piebalg's office saying "Nice try, but we don't have to listen to you."

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 01:01:13 PM EST
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Then sign it with multiple names on behalf of European Tribune. It's not a response to a consultation in any case, it's a response to how the consultation is being run. If you raise the issue directly you run a high risk that we will not be considered an organisation.
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 01:04:28 PM EST
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My intention was to raise the issue here, not in the letter.

Multiple signatures is probably the way to go, referencing ET all the same, of course.

by afew (afew(a in a circle)eurotrib_dot_com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 01:17:49 PM EST
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What about a reference praising the biofuels consultation in comparison?

*Lunatic*, n.
One whose delusions are out of fashion.
by DoDo on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 05:36:45 PM EST
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Good idea!
by Colman (colman at eurotrib.com) on Thu Sep 7th, 2006 at 05:50:21 PM EST
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