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Promoting biofuels as credible alternatives to oil in transport
... Today, biofuels are the only way to significantly reduce oil dependence in the transport sector. As part of its Energy Policy for Europe, the Commission is committed to encouraging the production and use of biofuels by proposing to set a binding minimum target for biofuels of 10% of vehicle fuel by 2020.
Unfortunately this is the weakest section of the initiative, exactly where it should be the strongest.
I'd say. I'd like to know how they think they're going to achieve 10% without importing 5%.

It's the statue, man, The Statue.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jan 12th, 2007 at 05:46:07 AM EST
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Today, biofuels are the only way to significantly reduce oil dependence in the transport sector.

Yes, let's forget about the possibility of an increased role for electrified rail transport, for example. Or a decrease in the total volume of transports with a greater role for local production and distribution networks and a better arrangement of living/working locations with improved public transport support. What an utter lack of imagination these people show. "the only way", yeah, right. Pathetic.
by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Fri Jan 12th, 2007 at 05:52:38 AM EST
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You're advocating social engineering and investment in infrastructure! Heathen!

It's the statue, man, The Statue.
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jan 12th, 2007 at 05:59:25 AM EST
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Or plug-in hybrids.

Are these énarques completely out of the loop?

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Fri Jan 12th, 2007 at 08:29:30 AM EST
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I want to know more about battery technology and production/recycle processes before embracing this. Are these "better" (EROEI wise and environment wise) than hydrogen fuel cell technology? Any clues where to look for more info? Has there been diaries?
by someone (s0me1smail(a)gmail(d)com) on Fri Jan 12th, 2007 at 08:52:56 AM EST
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If you're going to be producing hydrogen from water you might as well produce synthetic hydrocarbons and recycle atmospheric CO2 in that way. In both cases, it is likely that the limiting factor might be the transition metals needed as catalysts or to coat electrodes.

"It's the statue, man, The Statue."
by Migeru (migeru at eurotrib dot com) on Fri Jan 12th, 2007 at 08:57:05 AM EST
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Hydrogen fuel cells are a total rip-off. They are at least ten times the cost of high-tech batteries, with lower efficiency, require a vastly expensive fueling infrastructure, are burdened with a hen-or-egg problem, always 15 years away (plug-ins are really close and high end electrics already on the market) and are in my not so humble opinion just a smoke screen used by the auto industry so they can continue their SUV ways. A bit like carbon sequestration for the power industry.

I have a picture somewhere... Ah.

Battery recycling should not be a big problem. I mean, we recycle all batteries today. At least in Sweden. And they are not supposed to be cancerogenic (like petrol) or explosive (like hydrogen) or incredibly climate damaging (like uncombusted biogas).


Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.

by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Fri Jan 12th, 2007 at 10:57:28 AM EST
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By the way, solid oxide fuel cells (fueled by other stuff than hydrogen, like charcoal) might be a good idea.

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Fri Jan 12th, 2007 at 11:00:19 AM EST
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Is it just me, or are they trying to find another sector ot trash with CAP, like in the US?

Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
by Starvid (arvid.hallen at gmail.com) on Fri Jan 12th, 2007 at 10:58:54 AM EST
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